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10-22-2012 , 09:42 PM
whoa, I just found out higher mp is way better than I thought it was ...
The % to drop an extra item can't be a gold/potion/gem drop, yet it triggers from them.
So it's an extra chance to drop a real item every time a pile of gold drops?
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10-22-2012 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
seriously?

i guess most monks were getting destroyed at high levels.

but for non-ubers the ridiculous HP at MP10 is way dumber than the damage they did... sigh whatever... still no reason to play normal games above MP 3-4-5-6
Still no reason to do above MP1 with reasonable gear, like i said somewhere in this forum when the patch details were released

Something like 10-15% more loot for a 100%+ jump in health, difficulty, etc.

This is empirical data too, i did 20-30 runs on MP3, was losing archon too much went to MP2, dropped it sometimes with mobs taking a second to kill, decided to try to MP1 and instead of taking 1 second to kill, it takes 0.3 seconds on top of being able to use Scramble which makes me go even faster.

TL;DR: MP3->MP1 = 2-3x faster farming both gear and exp not even a joke
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10-22-2012 , 10:15 PM
pretty sure i read a blue say it can be gold etc
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10-22-2012 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
pretty sure i read a blue say it can be gold etc
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6893750712#12

good to know I'm not the only one to misunderstand
It's kinda counter-intuitive: one would expect it to be 100% more drops at mp10
but really it's probably more like 700-800% more since most drops are non-items.
Also it has no effect on champ packs, only normal mobs.

Last edited by Silman; 10-22-2012 at 10:37 PM.
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10-22-2012 , 10:55 PM
He definitely worded it pretty poorly. He probably realized it too because he edited in the () at the bottom to make it clear.
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10-22-2012 , 11:04 PM
what is worth picking up now?
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10-22-2012 , 11:05 PM
wow he really worded it as if the guy with autopicked up wouldve picked 2x gold
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10-22-2012 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootabager
what is worth picking up now?
no idea.
I pick up jewellery, slayers and whatever 63 weapon/armor I don't have to go out of my way for.
Picking up nothing but jewellery/legendaries is probably ideal
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10-22-2012 , 11:57 PM
I'm thinking something like legendaries, rings, amulets, and 1.4 speed 1-handers, but I have such a hard time dropping items from my pick-up list, so I keep picking up low EV stuff like i63 armors which aren't BiS for most classes.
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10-23-2012 , 03:22 AM
kirby what mp do you play on when soloing. and are you basically strictly doing key runs just constantly making hellfires? i find myself just doing key runs, logging out, more key runs. basically wasting a lot of 5 stacks and not getting much exp/many great drops as i don't have a solid post keyrun route really. i haven't straight item farmed yet just pretty much all for keys, but i'm curious what the 'go-to' farm act/route and mp level ppl are doing.

after re-gearing a bit last night i can pretty comfortably do mp7 although it does take a good bit longer to kill stuff than mp5, i'm wondering if it's worth it (0/2 for keys on mp7 lol sample size).
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10-23-2012 , 11:31 AM
Drexah, I think it doesn't actually make sense to work in A1/A2 runs outside of the 5-stack -> key route. For A3, I'd do whatever your normal farming route is (Alkaizer run or whatever) and just add the keywarden at the end. If you think about the most dense area in A3 that you pass on, even though you have 5 stacks, vs the most dense areas in A1/A2 that are not a part of your key run, the A3 areas outclass the A1/A2 ones in terms of mob density. So it makes no sense to add less dense areas to your A1/A2 run when you're passing on better areas in A3 after you have full NV. Of course, this point is moot if you do full A3 clears, but even then, I think you're better off spending that time for additional A3 clears than lengthening your A1/A2 key farms.
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10-23-2012 , 11:55 AM
Can you join a game when a portal is open? For some reason Butcher and Maghda are kicking my ass on MP5 right now even though I've done it before with few problems. Anyone want to give me a hand?

I have another machine to use as well.
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10-23-2012 , 12:13 PM
I think the only place that can compete with act 3 runs is doing act 2 vault of the assassin -> keywarden. But even this doesn't seem to compare with act 3.
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10-23-2012 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRempel
Can you join a game when a portal is open? For some reason Butcher and Maghda are kicking my ass on MP5 right now even though I've done it before with few problems. Anyone want to give me a hand?

I have another machine to use as well.
Yeah, you can bring people in after the portal is opened to help. I know your post was an hour ago, but if you're still in the game and on the US server, I can help.
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10-23-2012 , 01:03 PM
I take it Radiant Star Emeralds at ~6mil is a steal right now?

I was thinking about buying 2 of them to upgrade the gems in my weapons for the Crit Dmg.
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10-23-2012 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dazarath
Yeah, you can bring people in after the portal is opened to help. I know your post was an hour ago, but if you're still in the game and on the US server, I can help.
Damn! I gave up on SK and Maghda and used my last machine, which gave me Siege/Kruhl, which I couldn't even make a dent against and ended up rage quitting.

I'm sure at least half the problem is that I haven't slept yet and am super tired, but it was pretty disappointing to get owned like that on MP5.
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10-23-2012 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by drexah
kirby what mp do you play on when soloing. and are you basically strictly doing key runs just constantly making hellfires? i find myself just doing key runs, logging out, more key runs. basically wasting a lot of 5 stacks and not getting much exp/many great drops as i don't have a solid post keyrun route really. i haven't straight item farmed yet just pretty much all for keys, but i'm curious what the 'go-to' farm act/route and mp level ppl are doing.

after re-gearing a bit last night i can pretty comfortably do mp7 although it does take a good bit longer to kill stuff than mp5, i'm wondering if it's worth it (0/2 for keys on mp7 lol sample size).
i think best idea is to make games in the acts that you need a key and do a full act of mfing at the same time.

as to what I do well I still trade but I barely play right now, after my 14th hellfire ring im officially bored . Used to make key games at mp5
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10-23-2012 , 02:27 PM
What mp did you farm guts at?
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10-23-2012 , 08:04 PM
Does any one know how magic find affects the drop rates in this patch ?

What are the odds of a legendary/set to drop if you have 600/500/400 mf ?
6 stat rare ?

tried googling it but couldnt find any numbers.
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10-23-2012 , 11:17 PM
Was crushing A3 pre patch, and now I get owned on MP2. I suck.
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10-24-2012 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JulianAssange
Does any one know how magic find affects the drop rates in this patch ?

What are the odds of a legendary/set to drop if you have 600/500/400 mf ?
6 stat rare ?

tried googling it but couldnt find any numbers.
Same way it did before.

This is pretty good, but looooong: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/5793...-insight/#S6-3

Maximize MF * number of kills / minute. For virtually everyone, its mp1.

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What mp did you farm guts at?
4 seems to be the most efficient for me. 60k unbuffed WD.
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10-24-2012 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
i think best idea is to make games in the acts that you need a key and do a full act of mfing at the same time.

as to what I do well I still trade but I barely play right now, after my 14th hellfire ring im officially bored . Used to make key games at mp5
How long does it take you to farm a key?

I usually go straight 5 NV -> key. Takes 8-15 minutes for me on mp3 - mp4.

I skip all the trash.
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10-24-2012 , 03:15 PM
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Same way it did before.

This is pretty good, but looooong: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/5793...-insight/#S6-3
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10-24-2012 , 05:52 PM
are you guys soloing organs? i'm about to have my 3rd machine and wondering if it would be faster/more efficient to just farm the organs myself on like mp6-7 or team up with 2-3 other people who have a few machines and do as many (3?) as we can in one game and then make more if we don't get the drop. ~100k dps barb unbuffed for me...
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10-24-2012 , 08:08 PM
Oh my god act 4 key plan is the worst it takes soooooon long to get 5 stacks
I am glad I only need to do it once
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