Nah man, not really, good try though. I am for sure interested in how you guys look at Final Round. I own Final Rounders on the regular, not bitching about it, just pointing out that it is clearly the biggest imbalance in Trials and in that specific post nobody pointed out that all of his snipes were FR body shots, thats all man.

Again, FR is NOT on the same plane of imbalance as Thorn/Shotty+Blink/LW range, etc. It's just not, can't figure out why you are equating those.

Wow you guys are so sensitive here, sorry for mentioning that a dude has 33k posts.

Stream beginning 1 minute or so www.twitch.tv/bungie

Dave fill us in!

Dave, tell me what I should be thinking. K thnks

Tons of stuff! Looks basically awesome! Some things I remember:

Vault space doubled! 72 armors, 72 weapons. General 32, much less use for it because...

Collections! there are large ipads in the tower that hold copies of all "blueprints" for things such as exotics, emblems, shaders & ships. Can re-acquire for a modest cost, unlocks are account wide.

Select exotics will have "Year 2" versions with different perks. Black Suros can have it's focus fire toggled with a Thunderlord-like "fires faster the longer it is held" (omg).

Attack / Defense are undergoing a "metricification" type change. Fresh Y2 exotics have 280 attack, Y1 only 160. it is unclear if this is because the Y1 versions don't have their damage upgrade bubbles filled (Y2 ones have no damage bubbles). If 160 is the max damage for Y1 exotics that don't get a Y2 version, it's kinda harsh... no Horn or Thorn, Vex or Necro, among others.

There are many new bounties and quests all over the place. Shaxx has crucible bounties which if completed in a week give Nightfall class "unknown rewards". Gunsmith has "test this weapon" bounties that give deliveries of legendaries. Bounties can be tracked in HUD and handed in at any time from options screen.

Ghost shells are many and varied, often give silly perks like "spinmetal detector". There is a ghost shell that gives glimmer for killing guardians in the crucible!

Class items have perks on them too. Such as "increased armor when using a solar subclass"

Class items no longer required for faction rep. "Pledge" to a faction (for 2500 glimmer), can change once per week. Faction rep earned alongside regular vanguard / crucible, not instead of.

There are SWORDS! Swords can guard by holding L2.

Crucible/Vanguard marks are gone, and will be converted in to reward packages on release day. In their place are account wide "Legendary marks", which can be obtained from any previous mark-earning activities. They have a storage cap of only 200, but no weekly earning cap at all.

Dismantling legendary items will give some amount of Legendary marks (unknown amount, DeeJ was at the cap already)

Cryptarch now sells Legendary engrams for Legendary marks.

Reforging looks to be gone, but still available for HoW reforge-ready weapons. Unknown anything about future Iron Banner rewards.

Etheric light looks to be gone. In it's place, items of Year 2 (any item I think?) can be "infused" with the power of a superior item. So a perfect rolled gun / nice looking armor can be fed the power of superior items, and increase it's attack up to the Y2 cap. Y2 exotics shown to have the infusion icon, presumably for upgrading in future expansions. Y1 exotics not shown, unknown if they can be infused as yet.

"Light Level" based on armor is gone. Now level is only from XP (as it was 1-20), cap now at 40. "Light" still exists, as a quick way to see the overall equip level of a player. It's a straight average of attack+defense of all your equipped gear.


Stream had a quarter Million live viewers when it finished!


On Saturday there is another stream of redbull "esports" showing Crucible "Rift" mode presented with RedBull. Popular streamers will be competing.

Next Wed a stream shows playthrough of a new strike.

Wed after that shows gameplay of "Court of Oryx"

All streams same time, 10am Pacific.

I will, officially, be available for all of the 15th for this.

Am watching the stream recording now; the big takeaway for me so far is that the class items and the ghost shells now provide both stats (defense) and traits (strength, intelligence, discipline), and wait there's more, they also provide perks. Meaning your character is a little more RPG-style custom.

As will I!

We do not know the "go live" time for this one, and I'm not sure what timezone you're in. HoW changed from previous updates and didn't go live until 10am Pacific, which is quite late in the day of the 15th for some. Iron Banner now doesn't go live until 10am Pacific also, as does Trials.

We will surely hear news on this before release though.

I'm thinking I may take that whole week...

A lot of good things in that stream.

Poker volume is gonna take a hit

Yeah I'm gonna prob take a few days off from work that week **** it

yep

gotta get in a world first completion of the new RAID(s)

Took 15th and 16th off, rest of week pending developments.

100% crucible till lvl 40? i'd be down to take a few days off

:/ I have a conference, I can't take off

You can probably play on the hotel's wifi though...

already took off the 11th-27th for NHL 16 release, but me thinks I'll be playing more TKK than NHL.

Haha 100% crucible and then raid might be a good plan.

Or teams of 3 crushing story and new questlines, etc.

Basically whatever gets to the raid asap.

I'm expecting the raid to not be released until 1 week after or something, like it was in vanilla

I think I need to start capturing videos from which to extract audio samples. 1 month from now it'll be impossible to hear the awesome Peter Dinklage say "Guardian Down" in the various manners he does

Anything we should be doing to prepare for the expansion?

don't shard anything and level up factions

Probably a good idea to have a ton of vanguard and crucible marks, they might reset and start at 0, but they might convert to the new currency.

I think the plan is:

• Max marks for max conversion
• Get every faction to at least 3 and then push it to just short of rolling over, because you'l get gift packages when it does roll over
• Do the above on all characters
• Do not shard anything (it factors into your character level or something)
• Probably save tons of coins for Year 2 Exotics

Question about Scuf controllers: do they even matter if you're already using Jumper? I guess maybe?

I would say keep all the guns you can handle and reevaluate after the expansion (where we are getting more vault space anyway).

Contrary to what people on reddit or whatever might say, nobody knows what guns will be good or bad a month from now after the rebalancing patch and the expansion.

I hope Xur sells nothing but new stuff, I have to start using these 600 Strange coins lol.

Also really hoping they let us trade in Passage Coins for something. I have 300 of them now and I never freaking use them lol.

Anyone see this TTK Crucible Montage? Freaking amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPYlGzZXPvA