Not using those troops also means you're handicapping yourself.

For example if you're sitting on 8 Giants and 5 wiz, that's 60 spaces wasted.

I don't believe they are wasted if you can take the collectors with the remaining army you have.

Although, I have my doubts that you can get all of those bases that are abandoned with a less than full barch army. There are times that I use every last one getting all collectors...

Then we are back to what I said about using excessive army to take a town that could be taken with barch.

And this is why I only barch.....

But I still wonder if it would be more fun and profitable at times to get someone's hard earned and stored treasure with a diverse and powerful army.

Quite frankly if you are so desperate to maximize EV you should use BAM.

BAM is legit good too.

Barcho son.

BAM is more than 20% more efficient since you get to use an additional 2 barracks and minions are cheap but more effective than 2 archers. Plus they allow you to exploit areas where there is no air defence. In some cases this could mean getting to storages.

Barcho = barch plus hogs. Same idea.

I have converted to Bologna only for raids. Adjust used troops as needed

Farming with all Drain4s LDO

TH9 - 220 army space using this composition for my farming:


80 Archers
80 Barbarians
4 Giants
4 WB
32 Goblins
Lvl 14 BK
Lvl 12 AQ


I keep one of each spell type (Lightning, Heal, Rage, Jump)

I've found this provides me the flexibility to not have to skip over deeper storages like I might with a pure BARCH. But it still allows me to have the BARCH troops if I find good exposed collectors. I can just use only my archers or a mix with the barbs if needed to take down collectors and not use the giants/wb/goblins and still have a fast turn-around to my next attack.

I just make sure that archers and then barbarians are always the first troops queued in my barracks. Here is the breakdown per barrack in order:

20 archers
20 barbarians
1 giant
1 wb
8 goblins

You mean martyrdom, and good chance you are correct

While we have 1 gem boosts isn't any army that can be completed before you return to town +EV?

I've been using ~14 Giants, 1 healer, rest goblins. send in giants and healer to take out maj of defenses, send in gobs for cleanups

90% of the time I 3 star and collect 200k+ resources

You're only factoring in the time for the army and not the cost vs return. The more elixir you're spending the lower your ROI.

yea true, my comp takes something like 40k elixer but I make sure to only 3 star bases with 150k+ Elixer which is ever 5 mins or so

how long do we think the 1 gem deal will last?

Gold stinger, nuff said

Only pros use martyrdoma

1 gem boosts on everything. Even gold mines and oil drills.

Only problem is that my lvl3 drills will reach capacity after about 6 hours. So I'll be losing out while I sleep

isn't boosting gold/elixer collectors, even with the 1 gem discount, terribly -EV?

Over the span of 8-10 hours you might get, what, 200-300k? By boosting barracks and only 2 hours of raiding, you can get 3-5x that much of each resource.

It is if you have limited gems.

Its 24 hours extra passive income. Boosting barracks will obviously be worth a lot more, but that requires me to play during that time and I have other commitments. But the main point is that you don't have to chose between boosting barracks or boosting resource collectors, you can simply do both. So its a matter of weather the 1 gem is worth the amount of resources 24 hours of the boost will give you. Which it is imo

I'm at a hefty disadvantage defensively because I'm in a clan with my wife and ofc she doesn't understand we should invite more people to improve our defenses.

Does anyone know any decent, non-centralized-cc, bases for TH7?

6 gems which equals a whopping .06 (less if you by in bulk) for an extra 430k of each resource with level 11 collectors. Even more with level 12s. Quit being a nit. Not like you can't boost barracks and collectors. Not boosting for that extra rresource if you have the gems seems pretty stupid

Two level 3 DE drills would give you over 4k in DE passive with 2 gems.