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05-16-2015 , 06:03 PM
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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 215 BB (VPIP: 14.61, PFR: 8.99, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 89)
Hero (SB): 389.5 BB
BB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 9.68, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
UTG: 300.5 BB (VPIP: 11.36, PFR: 10.23, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 180)
MP: 62.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 6

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) T 9 6
Hero checks, BB bets 7.5 BB, UTG raises to 22 BB, fold, Hero calls 22 BB, fold

Turn: (63.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, UTG bets 46 BB, Hero calls 46 BB

River: (155.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 75 BB, UTG raises to 229.5 BB and is all-in

Villain seems to be nit based on 180 hands: 11\10 3.0

What do we do?
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05-16-2015 , 07:45 PM
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Don't donk the river. Check/call. Villain could easily have a straight or higher set here.
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05-16-2015 , 08:13 PM
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I would try to get it in on the flop. Would 3bet or shove flop.
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05-16-2015 , 08:20 PM
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Shove 300bb into the world's biggest nit?

In fact, how the hell are there 2nl games where no one has a VPIP above 15%?

What brave new world is this?
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05-17-2015 , 01:51 AM
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Man, raise for value otf, or at least ott! He def has an overpair, QQ+ here. You missed out on a lot of value imo and now he prob spiked a 3rd K otr. Also, don't donk R, no reason for that.

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In fact, how the hell are there 2nl games where no one has a VPIP above 15%?
I have a vpip of 40 and winning at 13bb/100 at 2NLZ 6m over 100K fwiw.
Last edited by FFSX; 05-17-2015 at 01:57 AM.
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05-17-2015 , 05:19 AM
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300bb deep bottom set is not good for gii.
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05-17-2015 , 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFSX
I have a vpip of 40 and winning at 13bb/100 at 2NLZ 6m over 100K fwiw.
#claim - lets see a juicy phat red line (non-showdown winnings) graph over 100k @ nl2 then.
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05-17-2015 , 06:52 AM
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Don't donk the river. Check/call. Villain could easily have a straight or higher set here.
This.
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I would try to get it in on the flop. Would 3bet or shove flop.
Not this.
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05-17-2015 , 07:06 AM
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As played I think you have to call. He could have AA, KK, AKcc, QKcc(maybe) and bigger sets. You are ahead enough to call imo
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05-17-2015 , 08:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi_Shredder
#claim - lets see a juicy phat red line (non-showdown winnings) graph over 100k @ nl2 then.
Not sure how juicy it should be, but here you go:
Spoiler:
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05-17-2015 , 08:20 AM
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As played I think you have to call. He could have AA, KK, AKcc, QKcc(maybe) and bigger sets. You are ahead enough to call imo
Villain is likely to flat naked Kx and AA unimproved otr. I highly doubt they are turning QQ/JJ into a bluff either. You essentially played your hand as a strong bluff catcher candidate so I'd just let him fire again and x/c river. Alternatively, fold pre
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