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06-14-2017 , 02:59 PM

fjguzzardi

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 86

I have a really low sample on villain, 24/21/3b:28 in 30 hands, with a lot of aggression.

Do you guys think it's a fold on the turn?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $8.40 (168 bb)
UTG: $4.32 (86.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $21.84 (436.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $21.42 (428.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.30, BTN calls $1.70

Flop: ($4.67) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, BTN calls $2.60

Turn: ($9.87) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $5.45, BTN raises to $16.52 and is all-in

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06-14-2017 , 03:17 PM

Rewdzx

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 436

with Aspades i snap fold turn

without Aspades i think for 5 seconds, think who the **** blasts off here with 87s, then fold

btw check turn, smashes his range not yours.

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Last edited by Rewdzx; 06-14-2017 at 03:24 PM.

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06-14-2017 , 06:33 PM

whitemares

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,786

Check the turn 100% of the time. I imagine you have to fold as played.

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06-14-2017 , 08:39 PM

fjguzzardi

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rewdzx

with Aspades i snap fold turn

without Aspades i think for 5 seconds, think who the **** blasts off here with 87s, then fold

btw check turn, smashes his range not yours.

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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $8.40 (168 bb)
UTG: $4.32 (86.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $21.84 (436.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $21.42 (428.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.30, BTN calls $1.70

Flop: ($4.67) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, BTN calls $2.60

Turn: ($9.87) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $5.45, BTN raises to $16.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.07

River: ($42.91) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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You gotta trust your reads sir... I cant help it, I'm a station.

You guys are right. Check turn > bet by a mile. I guess I took this line to extract from KK-QQ, but when he shoves I guess these hands are out of his range. Microlimits is tough because you never know what's going through someone's head. Sometimes they overplay, underplay, overbluff. Curious as I am, I learn by calling.

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06-14-2017 , 08:48 PM

Rewdzx

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 436

Quote:

Originally Posted by fjguzzardi

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.30, BTN calls $1.70

Flop: ($4.67) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, BTN calls $2.60

Turn: ($9.87) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $5.45, BTN raises to $16.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.07

River: ($42.91) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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yea i mean sometimes you'll find them clicking like this but the majority of the time ur just gonna own yourself

glgl think thru hands don't station

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06-15-2017 , 12:37 AM

Monsees

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 458

Not sure how relevant As is since I'm not sure if these guys are floating AKss on flop. Maybe they are when we're this deep. I think we should be checking turn, though I'm not sure how much suited connector type stuff we can expect with our 4bet being so large.

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06-15-2017 , 07:03 AM

Haizemberg93

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 7,639

I think flop is a check

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06-15-2017 , 08:56 AM

suetroM

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 44

As You made that line with 4bet and betting all the way (I'm not saying its good or not), theres no way folding can be +EV. SPR 4.5 with a monster and after a bet on turn where You are commited to your ears. I'm not bluffable sir. Especially from aggrotard.

If You would play like this and fold everytime You can start to play checkers instead.

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06-15-2017 , 11:51 AM

Flpmethntsdlr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,939

Never am I b/f turn on this board, nor am I checking unless it is with the intent to check shove myself.

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06-15-2017 , 03:07 PM

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whitemares

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,786

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Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr

nor am I checking unless it is with the intent to check shove myself.

This is probably the worst option without reads.

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06-15-2017 , 03:13 PM

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Flpmethntsdlr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,939

It wasn't an unbiased reply because I looked at the results first, lol.

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