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03-30-2022 , 11:45 AM

Redsixerfan

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https://rumble.com/vyqb0q-never-rais...dnt-raise.html

Two hands winning max value because I didn't play it by the book. Key to micro online profits is not letting your opponent know you have them beat, raising and betting loses customers.

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03-30-2022 , 12:40 PM

Eisenkreuz

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Ok, troll confirmed. Don't bother watching the video.
Dude limps aces from the CO with 3 previous limpers.
BTN min-raises and 4 people calls.
OP raises all-in x one million and is called by 33.

Big brain unconventional play.

03-30-2022 , 01:07 PM

Haizemberg93

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What site do you play?
H1-I dont hate this play its better on early postions, but if BTN and blinds are aggressive its not terrible.
H2-Is okish as well.

03-30-2022 , 01:43 PM

Redsixerfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haizemberg93

What site do you play?
H1-I dont hate this play its better on early postions, but if BTN and blinds are aggressive its not terrible.
H2-Is okish as well.

Its been a very VERY profitable play. Raising only chases away all nut peddlers. There's many players at these stakes who auto raise if there are multiple limpers, a very exploitable play if you play the players and not just your cards.

03-30-2022 , 01:45 PM

Redsixerfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisenkreuz

That's because you just play your cards not the players, you're very exploitable, hence why you hate this play.

03-30-2022 , 05:23 PM

Claret~N~Blue

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Is that you DaBear?

03-30-2022 , 05:26 PM

Redsixerfan

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https://rumble.com/vkie2l-3betting-w...cket-aces.html

Another example of why not to raise with AA.

04-02-2022 , 12:01 AM

Claret~N~Blue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsixerfan

https://rumble.com/vkie2l-3betting-w...cket-aces.html

Another example of why not to raise with AA.

Fold pre

04-05-2022 , 06:31 AM

Cash Beast Ezra

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsixerfan

What exploit would you suggest against an opponent who raises AA over multiple limpers?

04-06-2022 , 03:47 AM

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Claret~N~Blue

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When are you releasing how to play 95o from EP?

04-06-2022 , 04:17 AM

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newguyhere

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue

When are you releasing how to play 95o from EP?

Do I win the thread?

(This was from almost 2 years ago when I was a massive tilt monkey)

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO (85.2BBs) [VPIP: 22.2% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 31.4% | Flop Agg: 32.3% | Turn Agg: 36.2% | River Agg: 32.2% | 3-Bet: 7.3% | 4-Bet: 16% | Hands: 222436]
HJ (139.7BBs) [VPIP: 31.3% | PFR: 12.5% | AGG: 26.3% | Hands: 32]
CO (38.6BBs) [VPIP: 40.6% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 7.4% | Hands: 32]
BTN (142.7BBs) [VPIP: 41.9% | PFR: 3.2% | AGG: 51.5% | Hands: 31]
SB (59.6BBs) [VPIP: 46.9% | PFR: 9.4% | AGG: 22.6% | Hands: 32]
BB (29.6BBs) [VPIP: 86.7% | PFR: 10% | AGG: 46.2% | Flop Agg: 42.3% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 69.2% | 3-Bet: 18.2% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 76.9% | Hands: 30]

Dealt to Hero: 9

HERO Raises To 85.2BBs (allin), HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 28.6BBs (allin)

Flop (115.1BBs): 9

Turn (115.1BBs): 9

River (115.1BBs): 9

Spoiler:

04-06-2022 , 12:37 PM

#12

Boomerx

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You know this hilarious in so many ways, maybe its because im still high but this is exactly how GTO advocates view exploitative approach, as borderline trolling. The irony is that that overlimp-shove play with AA is gto approved, if you look at zenith range against utg + mp + co limps, btn has an overlimp range pretty much with all of its' AA and against bb's 7bb rfi, btn splits between raising to 33bb and shoving.

04-06-2022 , 12:57 PM

#13

JohnRusty

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nh. Think you can also just min-raise the min-raise sometimes for additional deception, but your play is fine if you don't want to get too fancy

04-06-2022 , 02:30 PM

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Claret~N~Blue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newguyhere

Do I win the thread?

(This was from almost 2 years ago when I was a massive tilt monkey)

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)

HERO (85.2BBs) [VPIP: 22.2% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 31.4% | Flop Agg: 32.3% | Turn Agg: 36.2% | River Agg: 32.2% | 3-Bet: 7.3% | 4-Bet: 16% | Hands: 222436]

HJ (139.7BBs) [VPIP: 31.3% | PFR: 12.5% | AGG: 26.3% | Hands: 32]

CO (38.6BBs) [VPIP: 40.6% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 7.4% | Hands: 32]

BTN (142.7BBs) [VPIP: 41.9% | PFR: 3.2% | AGG: 51.5% | Hands: 31]

SB (59.6BBs) [VPIP: 46.9% | PFR: 9.4% | AGG: 22.6% | Hands: 32]

BB (29.6BBs) [VPIP: 86.7% | PFR: 10% | AGG: 46.2% | Flop Agg: 42.3% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 69.2% | 3-Bet: 18.2% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 76.9% | Hands: 30]

Dealt to Hero: 9

Is your play so predictable by the book you're missing out on max profits?

: 5

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HERO Raises To 85.2BBs (allin), HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 28.6BBs (allin)

Flop (115.1BBs): 9

: 5

:

Turn (115.1BBs): 9

: 5

: K

:

River (115.1BBs): 9

: 5

: K

: 8

Spoiler:

Haha nh sir

04-06-2022 , 04:10 PM

#15

Eisenkreuz

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Got this hand today. Another perfect example of why not to raise with AA and unconventional postflop play.

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 96 BB
Hero (BTN): 103.2 BB
SB: 131 BB
BB: 37.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4

CO calls 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, BB checks

Flop: (3.4 BB, 3 players) 3

BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (3.4 BB, 3 players) 6

BB bets 3.4 BB, CO calls 3.4 BB, Hero calls 3.4 BB

River: (13.6 BB, 3 players) 9

BB checks, CO bets 91.6 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 98.8 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero shows 4

(Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 26%, Turn 77%)
CO shows A

(Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 78%, Flop 74%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins 186 BB

04-06-2022 , 04:18 PM

#16

JohnRusty

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisenkreuz

CO calls 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, BB checks

Flop: (3.4 BB, 3 players) 3

BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (3.4 BB, 3 players) 6

BB bets 3.4 BB, CO calls 3.4 BB, Hero calls 3.4 BB

River: (13.6 BB, 3 players) 9

BB checks, CO bets 91.6 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 98.8 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero shows 4

(Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 26%, Turn 77%)
CO shows A

(Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 78%, Flop 74%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins 186 BB

results oriented thinking

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