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03-03-2016 , 05:51 PM

Blue-chip-tuna

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 408

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Hero (SB): $5.17 (103.4 bb)
BB: $8.98 (179.6 bb)
UTG: $5.14 (102.8 bb)
MP: $8.35 (167 bb)
CO: $4.64 (92.8 bb)
BTN: $4.93 (98.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, BB raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $0.86, BB calls $0.51

Flop: ($1.72) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $1, BB folds

No stats or reads on V

Whats your 4B range here vs an unknown?
This is typically my range:
KK-JJ, AKo, AKs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s

& Are you Cbetting this flop?

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03-03-2016 , 06:08 PM

SickDraw

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 28

I guess I would have fold pre but as played check flop to hope for a free card as he can have AJ, AQ, KQ, QQ, JJ and fold to bet but I'm tight and not a gambler so idk

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03-03-2016 , 06:41 PM

SCF

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,281

Wouldn't cbet this flop. The QJ smacks his likely calling range and he's unlikely to fold anything in position. You are out of position and your equity is absolutely awful, with pretty much no cards you can barrel. You are also well behind any floats he might have. Finally, you are unlikely to have implied odds when you spike a Tx, because you are going to have AK in your perceived range and 25% of the time you hit it's going to be the T

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03-03-2016 , 06:53 PM

ChalkOutline

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,253

Call>4bet>>>>>>>>>>>>Fold

x\f this flop.

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03-03-2016 , 07:02 PM

drakelol

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,149

call vs this sizing. AP cbetting is horrible imo

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03-03-2016 , 07:50 PM

SH1591

adept

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 856

really don't like this cbet, wouldn't expect many folds

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03-04-2016 , 04:10 AM

pucmo

adept

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,188

I don't think there is value in limping the AA vs an unknown, just vs a heavy folder (or vs a raiser). I would 4b it at least out of position. I would not use many any kind of 4b semi bluff hands but vs a known or so. If the BB is looser, then, plus some more value 4b hands.

The flop c-bet is basic strategy (or maybe not all so as a bottom one) but it doesn't consider the flop type. That often hits his range well. Even the 99, 88 are blocked. Additionally, it is suited and QJ coordinated. Not even a backdoor flush to add.

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03-04-2016 , 07:48 AM

Schlager233

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 398

I'm calling this 100% bvb and that's against standard sizing. This is just a snap call. I'm glad the cb got through but generally I'd expect this board to smash a 4b callers range really hard.

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03-04-2016 , 07:50 AM

xMJK

adept

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 744

Replace all SC's with A9-A6s, K9-K8s and Q9s-Q8s.

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03-04-2016 , 10:46 AM

#10

jeccross

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,807

No, it's no where near at 5NL.

Call and play fit or fold.

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03-04-2016 , 08:19 PM

#11

Folding4value

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 223

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Originally Posted by xMJK

Replace all SC's with A9-A6s, K9-K8s and Q9s-Q8s.

THIS. Don't 4bet SC; their equity sucks vs any decent flatting range. SC are the type of hands you may include on a 5b shoving range when villain is folding a lot and is polarized to bluffs and a calling range of ~ JJ+, AK.

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03-05-2016 , 01:15 AM

#12

Bladesman87

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14,543

Probably fine to have a few (as in very few) combos in your 4-bet range for board coverage. Would rather flat vs. this sizing.

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03-05-2016 , 03:46 AM

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chillted

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 48

i might be wrong but i think hands like A9s-A2s are significantly better to have in your 4bet range blind v blind than stuff like 45s, 56s etc bc of blocker value + if you're decent postflop then it's kinda easy to play. in this hand i think the best line to take was probably to peel bc of the great price then x/f this flop. you can even probably x/f this flop as played because i can't think of much of his 4bet flatting range that folds this board. TT? even that might peel and you block 99 and 88 so

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03-05-2016 , 12:51 PM

#14

LTgrace

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 159

there is no need to have 4bet bluffing ranges at nl5 vs unknowns.

call 3bet pre and fold flop if missed.

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