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03-15-2014 , 08:36 PM

SnowmenBullets

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 132

Hero (UTG+1): 110 BB

Villain is BB: 81.5 BB (VPIP: 31.33, PFR: 14.46, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 84)
Nothing else noteworthy

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 3

BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Turn : (12.5 BB, 2 players) 4

BB bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

River : (60.5 BB, 2 players) 7

BB bets 51.5 BB and is all-in,

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03-15-2014 , 08:53 PM

Chigmeister

adept

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,069

Bigger flop/bigger turn/shove/snap call river

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03-15-2014 , 09:23 PM

Vilhelms

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 521

A donk re-raise is often pretty strong in my experience.

Here the board is super dry so I think value hands that villian might play this way include A3, JJ and 44, that's pretty much it. I don't see this play very often with AJ.

So, we have a bluff catcher here - we can't beat any of his value hands.

This river should almost never be a bluff after we raise-call the turn, so, with villians line taken into account I'm fairly comfortable folding in this spot.

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03-15-2014 , 09:39 PM

YNWA

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 353

ye unlikely he 3bets the flop with worse hands and there are no draws he can have , i think rivers a fold. People will read a'lot into him only having 81bb so likely a fish but that makes it even more likely he has all the 3x , and fish tend to call down there weaker hands like a Jx, If he had just called flop and turn then id be happy to bet bet bet.

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03-16-2014 , 06:28 AM

IntoTheFogMonkey

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 4

definetly bigger bet on flop - 2/3rd to pot size
river is a clear fold given the preflop action - it's unlikely he has overpairs that we beat and TPTK, TPGK would probably be a calldown.

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03-16-2014 , 07:04 AM

KwitTHAT

centurion

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 169

We only really beat overplayed Jx. Maybe QQ-KK, but fish tend to 3bet these big pairs. I'd say the way he played turn looks more like villain holds JJ, 44, or maybe even some 3x as villain does seem fishy. I mean I think you can fold here.

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03-16-2014 , 07:16 AM

lumileijona

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Betsizing on both flop and turn is terrible.

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03-16-2014 , 07:24 AM

YNWA

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 353

is there any need to raise the turn ? you could call the turn and then raise fold the river for a small bet or call down to a larger river bet.

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03-16-2014 , 08:28 AM

SnowmenBullets

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Originally Posted by lumileijona

Betsizing on both flop and turn is terrible.

A little why would help.

On the flop, I figured i want callers. Is it just because I'm not extracting enough value from Jx? Im certainly not afraid of jx jagging 2pair.

Villain bets the turn. Not me. Is the raise insufficient?

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03-16-2014 , 08:31 AM

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SnowmenBullets

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Originally Posted by YNWA

is there any need to raise the turn ? you could call the turn and then raise fold the river for a small bet or call down to a larger river bet.

OTT, I certainly wanted more value from my hand than 3bb.

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03-16-2014 , 08:33 AM

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de_man

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,513

How often/ light has the guy been getting to showdown? That kinda determines whether this is a really obvious fold or a really bad one

We only lose to A3 & 44....MAYBE JJ but I think thats unlikely.

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03-16-2014 , 08:34 AM

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YNWA

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 353

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Originally Posted by SnowmenBullets

OTT, I certainly wanted more value from my hand than 3bb.

you still have the river to play.

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