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06-25-2015 , 02:02 AM

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centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 104

Is V betting turn with a possible strong flush draw trying to get me off of what I have since he limped. A set is doubtful on flop I think he would have bet flop or at least check raised me. Is this really always him having a Q on the turn and once the river comes I should just fold?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36892261

SB: $7.11 (142.2 bb)
BB: $5.16 (103.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $5.69 (113.8 bb)
CO: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
BTN: $9.46 (189.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K

Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.72) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

River: ($3.72) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $3.31 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.31

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06-25-2015 , 02:05 AM

markodpoker

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Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,654

doubtful a set would x/r this super dry flop.

doubt villain is x/ring you without Q9 or QJ here, AQ/KQ[which we block] type hands are not likely to be floating here let alone raising OTT with just TP.

At this point in the hand you have a bluff catcher, because he isn't value betting AJ so you just have to check his range of busted draws and whether or not he'd shove them OTR.

Stats are kinda needed here, but I'm folding in a vacuum.

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06-25-2015 , 02:07 AM

Solrac247

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Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 41

This is just a sick hand. You have a bluff catcher in that river with KK. Because of the micro stakes I call everytime, but his range could be J10hh, J9, QJ, Q10. Long run kinda just have to gauge where your willing to lose money this spot or another

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06-25-2015 , 02:14 AM

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centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 104

V stats were 24/9 don't know if that helps or not.

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06-25-2015 , 02:18 AM

markodpoker

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What's his Aggression Factor (AF) or Aggression Frequency (AFq)? Also how big is your sample of hands on him?

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06-25-2015 , 02:28 AM

Buzz Nutter

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 104

only 35 hands the AF pre is .43 flop is 2.00 turn is 0 and river is 1.00

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06-25-2015 , 02:48 AM

markodpoker

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Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,654

sadly that's not really a big enough sample to glean too much, but I guess considering this is his first turn aggressive action that I'd be more inclined to believe it's a value hand rather than a draw, and I'd be folding river.

Then again, I'm a nit and you may here wayyyy different opinions so take it with a grain of salt.

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06-25-2015 , 03:01 AM

adriang

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 928

I'm leaning towards folding against that guy as well. You'll find better spots to put your money in.

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06-25-2015 , 03:21 AM

Denjua

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,198

River is a definite F Imo, that sizing looks really strong, and turn raises vs a 24/9 are for value waay too often. What can V be raising turn with?

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06-25-2015 , 08:58 AM

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TWhelan

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spew

fold turn

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06-25-2015 , 09:04 AM

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Denjua

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Originally Posted by TWhelan

spew

fold turn

I initially thought this but i thought it looked too weak overall, what range do you think V does this with?

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06-25-2015 , 10:47 AM

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ForeverLearning

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don't fold turn

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06-25-2015 , 10:55 AM

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new1home

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 104

I think turn is quite close to a fold v his range. As we have gutter and outs to better 2 pair i guess we can call. Definitely fold river, esp v a 24/9 even if this is a small sample to go by.

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06-26-2015 , 09:08 AM

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TWhelan

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Originally Posted by Denjua

I initially thought this but i thought it looked too weak overall, what range do you think V does this with?

most guys won't bluff that spot at 5nl
unless you know he is aggro or some sort of spewy fish that valueraises worse or something then I would just assume his range is very 2pair+ heavy
imo he shouldn't even raise 2pair there really but people will do it

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Originally Posted by ForeverLearning

don't fold turn

imo it's bad to call there at 5nl, especially vs someone who seems like a boring weak tight fish

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06-26-2015 , 09:17 AM

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strikershank

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i think you can fold turn to the raise but its close and i can see calling and seeing how villain deals with river....
river is a def fold for me....if villain x/r with QX he got there; and there are plenty of 2pr/straights that got there on turn and villain fires again. at 5nl, people don't x/r turn light for the most part. villains x/r turn and river shove is def better than KK or one pair.

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