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02-22-2023 , 08:40 PM
What option do we like best on the river?


Bonus question: If villain jams turn, call or fold?


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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO (100BBs) [VPIP: 25.9% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 34.5% | Flop Agg: 35.8% | Turn Agg: 37.1% | River Agg: 39.8% | 3-Bet: 9.1% | 4-Bet: 16.7% | Cold Call: 11.2% | Hands: 57965]
HJ (154.9BBs) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 2]
CO (146.3BBs) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 100% | AGG: 16.7% | Flop Agg: 50% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 2]
BTN (24.2BBs) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 2]
SB (198.8BBs) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 2]

Dealt to Hero: J K

HJ Folds, CO Raises To 2.5BBs, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls 1.5BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [18.19 effective]
Flop (5.4BBs): 7 J 2
HERO Checks, CO Bets 1.5BBs (Rem. Stack: 142.3BBs), HERO Raises To 9.5BBs (Rem. Stack: 88BBs), CO Calls 8BBs (Rem. Stack: 134.3BBs)

Turn (24.4BBs): 7 J 2 4
HERO Bets 15.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 72.4BBs), CO Calls 15.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 118.7BBs)

River (55.5BBs): 7 J 2 4 7
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02-22-2023 , 09:22 PM
Folding vs. turn jam - spot is probably underbluffed and we are getting crushed by his value. 7 is better for his range than yours and I don't think we can squeeze out more value with a bet, so I like x here.
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02-22-2023 , 10:27 PM
I wonder how often a solver likes a x/r with our exact combo. Not having of Kd in hand makes me think the flop should be a x/c more often than a x/r. I think we have enough x/r with T8dd, T9dd, 89dd, AdXd, 22 and 77 that we don't need to overly extend our x/r range and make villain play perfectly.

Ap, I like the turn sizing, but I also think we can size up a little more targeting draws, worst QJ, JT, J9, and we also wouldn't mind folds from broadway clubs that called our flop x/r and other hands in this class.



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Originally Posted by thr33bet
Folding vs. turn jam - spot is probably underbluffed and we are getting crushed by his value. 7 is better for his range than yours and I don't think we can squeeze out more value with a bet, so I like x here.
How many 7x combos villain calls a x/r and a db with on the turn? Seems kind of loose and the villain is unknown. Is the villain flatting QQ-AA on the flop? 77/22 flat the x/r? I think villain's range is worst AJ-J9, missed draws. I'm having a hard time finding a 7 in his range.


I'm a little torn between a half pot bet and a check. Check to induce from all missed draws, and bet targeting worst Jx and maybe stubborn TT-88?
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02-22-2023 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Balerion1
How many 7x combos villain calls a x/r and a db with on the turn? Seems kind of loose and the villain is unknown. Is the villain flatting QQ-AA on the flop? 77/22 flat the x/r? I think villain's range is worst AJ-J9, missed draws. I'm having a hard time finding a 7 in his range.


I'm a little torn between a half pot bet and a check. Check to induce from all missed draws, and bet targeting worst Jx and maybe stubborn TT-88?
Why would you include TT-88 in his range but not 7x?
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02-22-2023 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thr33bet
Why would you include TT-88 in his range but not 7x?
TT is significantly better to call with than a 7 on the flop. I can take out 88 and leave a few 99 combos.
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02-22-2023 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Balerion1
TT is significantly better to call with than a 7 on the flop. I can take out 88 and leave a few 99 combos.
We aren't x/r 88 or 99 OTF so how is TT better? With 7x you get 5 outs when behind, with TT you have 2. Plus 7x blocks value like J7s and 77 while TT blocks bluffs.
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02-22-2023 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by thr33bet
We aren't x/r 88 or 99 OTF so how is TT better? With 7x you get 5 outs when behind, with TT you have 2. Plus 7x blocks value like J7s and 77 while TT blocks bluffs.

TT blocks JT. I could be wrong, but my assumption is a 7x folds by the turn if that combo is c-betting often in the first place. I was trying to think of a range and a few combos that I think we can target for value on the spot, not doing a deep analysis on each combo.
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02-22-2023 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Balerion1
TT blocks JT. I could be wrong, but my assumption is a 7x folds by the turn if that combo is c-betting often in the first place. I was trying to think of a range and a few combos that I think we can target for value on the spot, not doing a deep analysis on each combo.
I think some of the better 7x which bet flop for value still needs to stick around after our turn bet, like A7s and K7s which block value and unblock bluffs.
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02-22-2023 , 11:28 PM
Check call river, would fold to turn jam with no possible draws present after villain calls flop XR and jams over us its AJ plus.
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02-23-2023 , 06:18 AM
No value in river bet, line is thin already. XC.
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02-23-2023 , 08:15 AM
Flop XR is too big for your hand. This is not type of hand you want to put stacks in, so dont make too big of a pot with it. Turs is okish but its getting quiet thin, check river.
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02-23-2023 , 09:45 AM
We probably need to c/r with top pair at least some of the time, doesn't seem good to only have 77 and 22 and J7s for value. Sizing for the c/r may be a bit too big though. A smaller c/r is more likely to keep hands like 99 or TT in the pot with your value range, while still putting enough pressure to fold him off A-high when you are bluffing.

On the turn because of your big flop c/r, his range becomes quite strong, so your hand probably becomes a check.
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