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12-30-2009 , 02:10 PM

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hammer_time

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I find it hard to believe that isn't a heads up graph. If that's really 6 max I'm very impressed.

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12-30-2009 , 04:17 PM

#27

Holdem_lol

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Originally Posted by Reefypoopoo

all that matters is blue line

This.

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12-30-2009 , 05:00 PM

#28

2SHAE

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Originally Posted by Moonshine

hu for your roll anytime sir

i'd play. i've taken on better. i aint no mfin bumhunter

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12-30-2009 , 05:10 PM

#29

Peligro!

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hypothesis: positive red-lines at 6max NL reflect an exploitative (and exploitable) strategy

anyone disagree?

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12-30-2009 , 05:11 PM

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Tony Tight

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How can u expect your w$sd to be good when you are obv playing a style where you rarely give up on a pot.What your wwsf?

You are obv an excellent poker player surely you know this!

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12-30-2009 , 05:30 PM

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fingersmith

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Originally Posted by 2SHAE

i'd play. i've taken on better. i aint no mfin bumhunter

level? 2p2 account hacked? otherwise LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL AND GL SIR!

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12-30-2009 , 05:33 PM

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fingersmith

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Originally Posted by Peligro!

hypothesis: positive red-lines at 6max NL reflect an exploitative (and exploitable) strategy

anyone disagree?

i've been thinking the same thing and i'm glad someone else brought it up

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12-30-2009 , 05:51 PM

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jalexand42

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Originally Posted by 2SHAE

i'd play. i've taken on better. i aint no mfin bumhunter

lol. please one time.

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12-30-2009 , 05:58 PM

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imfromsweden

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Originally Posted by Tony Tight

How can u expect your w$sd to be good when you are obv playing a style where you rarely give up on a pot.What your wwsf?

You are obv an excellent poker player surely you know this!

obv he knows......... this is a brag post

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12-30-2009 , 05:58 PM

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imfromsweden

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Originally Posted by fingersmith

i've been thinking the same thing and i'm glad someone else brought it up

why?

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12-30-2009 , 06:03 PM

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tcorbin16

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Originally Posted by Moonshine

hu for your roll anytime sir

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Originally Posted by 2SHAE

i'd play. i've taken on better. i aint no mfin bumhunter

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12-30-2009 , 06:06 PM

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Shizzle12345

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if u play nitty games, red line is up, exploiting 12 tabling mindless regulars wins you alot of red line money. playing in fishy games usually nets in break even or slightly losing non sd line, cos they jsut dont fold!
how hard is this come on..

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12-30-2009 , 06:10 PM

#38

d0zer

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Originally Posted by 2SHAE

i'd play. i've taken on better. i aint no mfin bumhunter

i couldn't find the damn popcorn smiley so i'll just say i am eagerly waiting for this to go down

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12-30-2009 , 07:11 PM

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horse84

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2shae just made it on my ignore list. first. another proof how top notch he is

Last edited by horse84; 12-30-2009 at 07:20 PM.

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12-30-2009 , 07:25 PM

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2SHAE

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can i please assemble a list of ppl who will 4 table me 10/20 HU? (no corbin, tho)

-moonshine
-jalex (one time)?
-easycall?
-horse84?
-d0zer?

anyone else?

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12-30-2009 , 07:28 PM

#41

Redgrape

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Yeah 2shae ill do it

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12-30-2009 , 07:33 PM

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Redgrape

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Yeah this is an epic brag post.

Red line is almost always a sign that your doing something well. However, some things people will do that increase red line will decrease sd winnings more and therefore decrease total winnings.

One time I played 1/2 nl 6 max with just maximizing red line as the goal. I won 20 buy ins of in non sd winnings but lost about 40 in sd winnings in around 10k hands.

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12-30-2009 , 07:58 PM

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Lefort

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Each line has a ton of different factors affecting its resulting trend.. and the most heavily weighted factor (if you're playing well exploitatively speaking) being who the majority of your hands are played against..

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12-30-2009 , 08:01 PM

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spew$

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This message is hidden because 2SHAE is on your ignore list.

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12-30-2009 , 08:43 PM

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NCSU07

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...rags-variance/

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12-30-2009 , 09:09 PM

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cero_dinero

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hey add me to that list 2shae. pm me or something if you are serious about playing sometime

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12-31-2009 , 01:53 AM

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hilberado

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Originally Posted by hitthedeck

sick brag..

different styles tend to have different balance in those 2 lines... u wont be able to increase ur sd line too much without ur red line going down.

Im not so sure. Doesnt Boywonder run around even in showdown winnings and clean out in non-showdown?

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12-31-2009 , 01:54 AM

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hilberado

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Originally Posted by hammer_time

I find it hard to believe that isn't a heads up graph. If that's really 6 max I'm very impressed.

Its only 6max

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12-31-2009 , 01:55 AM

#49

2SHAE

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Originally Posted by hilberado

Im not so sure. Doesnt Boywonder run around even in showdown winnings and clean out in non-showdown?

it's the other way around... but oldjude has a similar redline. It's not that impressive to have a redline like that. It's a matter of style. However, overall your results are nice. It's finding a balance between the two lines, and it looks like you've done a good job at that.

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12-31-2009 , 02:02 AM

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hilberado

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Originally Posted by Tony Tight

How can u expect your w$sd to be good when you are obv playing a style where you rarely give up on a pot.What your wwsf?

You are obv an excellent poker player surely you know this!

TY for the compliment, tho I think some of the regs im playing atm thinks differently.

I dont necssecarily expect the my showdown winnings to be high when im making good monies with non-showdown. But while looking through my DB, i didnt manage to find any decent regs, who looses a much as I do at showdown.
I fully unstand the high coeffecient of correlation for the two graphs.

My WWSF is:
NL400: 47.1
NL1k: 48.1
NL2k: 49
I have no idea how that is.

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