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09-03-2021 , 07:18 AM
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I have played this hands on 3 different accounts.
On NLH 0.10/0.25
online and almost on 1 table and always with a minimum buy-in(20BB)

(Please zoom-in on the photos)

What is my winrate in BB per 100 hand?
It is good?

What are my problems and what should I do and what should I not do?
Am I a winning player or a loser?



Account number 1 (old)
16,000 hand
In about 3 months








Account number 2 (middle)
5,600 hand
In about 5 months








Account number 3 (new)
3,600 hand
In about 2 months








Statistics of the last 3,500



Data Guide
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10-01-2021 , 04:08 AM
Despite only being around 20.000 hands I would very much appreciate some critical input. These stats are a bit the result of trying to adjust and playing more aggressive since beginning of September, by implementing protection bets more and exploit overfolding tendencies in checked spots so increasing Float Flop and Probe Turn next to Raise CB in favorable boards.

I so far compared the stats with a RIO video of Peter Clarke, and what stands out most is much lower RFI in CO/BU/SB, slightly higher RFI UTG and HJ, lower 3B in BB, much higher Flop CB, and low River CB, and slightly higher stabbing stats.





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11-23-2021 , 06:19 PM
10NLz still, trying again now to get some feedback with the completion of 100.000 hands.

Any input welcome!








Last edited by thetho; 11-23-2021 at 06:32 PM.
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11-23-2021 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by thetho
10NLz still, trying again now to get some feedback with the completion of 100.000 hands.

Any input welcome!







20/16 is pretty tight, wtsd is a bit high and wsd a bit low. Flop cbet looks a bit high to me as well

Looks like you probably aren't folding enough to turn and river bets, could be what's killing your winrate
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11-23-2021 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
20/16 is pretty tight, wtsd is a bit high and wsd a bit low. Flop cbet looks a bit high to me as well

Looks like you probably aren't folding enough to turn and river bets, could be what's killing your winrate
Thanks a lot! Any good indication what i should aim for?

On being too tight, I wonder the same when I see the numbers, but I am also having a hard time to loosen up when f.e. on BU and SB 3B frequencies are really high in 10NLz and I cannot defend well. But probably have to adjust more in that sense then by 4B polar more. I am waiting for a Black Friday deal to see Ben Sulsky on RIO in micro/low stakes, but I think he plays even tighter - I think he is the only pro/crusher who - although I see other adjustments like f.e. one on RIO Essential folding QQ vs 4B.

Spot on with calling too many T/R bets, something that I'm trying to get out of my system only for the last 20.000 hands or so.
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11-24-2021 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by thetho
10NLz still, trying again now to get some feedback with the completion of 100.000 hands.

Any input welcome!







very nitty playstyle, it works to a decent extent for now, but it won't take you far
And I promise you you can make more money by being more aggressive and sticky
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11-24-2021 , 08:30 AM
Cheers! I see the points about being more loose and aggressive and trying to open up more in CO and BU, probably need to 3B more in BB as well.

What exactly do you mean with being more sticky? I feel my WtSD and WSD are not ideal and I should rather find a bit more folds early on as the previous poster mentioned, but maybe that's not what you were referring to
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12-31-2021 , 05:16 AM
Hey everyone! A nice person on another thread suggested I post some stat lines here. Would love any input. These are from 50NL Zoom on ACR. 12k hand sample if I only look at the last month. I'm sure lots will pop out here, looking forward to hearing from you.







I'm going to post one more image. I think I was getting way out of line here but here's my last 2k hands played only. I know it's a small sample but wanted to get a little more aggressive against regs and here was the result. Seems like it ended up being a really bad adjustment but also curious on thoughts here versus above overall.



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12-31-2021 , 08:14 AM
Hello again, Soariation

So a quick glance at your vpip/pfr shows you're not really positionally aware; you have the same vpip/pfr from every position. It looks like you're using one opening range from every position. BTN should be opening much wider than EP.

Create a report and add the "raise first in" stat. Standard RFI% looks something like this:
UTG - 17%
HJ - 21%
CO -29%
BTN-43%
SB - 44%

You should probably open even wider than that in BTN because the blinds under-defend and don't raise enough.

The other thing is that you're under-raising from every position. Your 3bet and 4bet stats are really nitty. That might make it hard to get any value with your value. It also means people can 3bet you with impunity.

All of that can be corrected by just studying preflop charts. Heck, ACR even allows you to use RFI charts as you play. I also suggest switching to a raise/fold strategy in HJ/CO and SB. No need to complicate your life with a 5% cold-calling range in these spots. Again, I'd suggest GTO Wizard for pf charts, but tbh there are plenty of free high-quality preflop charts out there.

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Now beyond that, the 30bb/100 loss rate is alarming. There are certainly some major postflop mistakes going on here. It's time to move to lower stakes. Don't feel bad, ACR zoom is said to be one of the toughest pools out there. There are plenty of soft club app sites you can try instead.

I think it makes a lot of sense for you to hire a coach if you plan on continuing to play at this stake. A few hours on coaching would almost certainly save you thousands in the long run.
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12-31-2021 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Soariation
Hey everyone! A nice person on another thread suggested I post some stat lines here. Would love any input. These are from 50NL Zoom on ACR. 12k hand sample if I only look at the last month. I'm sure lots will pop out here, looking forward to hearing from you.







I'm going to post one more image. I think I was getting way out of line here but here's my last 2k hands played only. I know it's a small sample but wanted to get a little more aggressive against regs and here was the result. Seems like it ended up being a really bad adjustment but also curious on thoughts here versus above overall.



You're kinda nitty
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12-31-2021 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tombos21
Hello again, Soariation

So a quick glance at your vpip/pfr shows you're not really positionally aware; you have the same vpip/pfr from every position. It looks like you're using one opening range from every position. BTN should be opening much wider than EP.

Create a report and add the "raise first in" stat. Standard RFI% looks something like this:
UTG - 17%
HJ - 21%
CO -29%
BTN-43%
SB - 44%

You should probably open even wider than that in BTN because the blinds under-defend and don't raise enough.

The other thing is that you're under-raising from every position. Your 3bet and 4bet stats are really nitty. That might make it hard to get any value with your value. It also means people can 3bet you with impunity.

All of that can be corrected by just studying preflop charts. Heck, ACR even allows you to use RFI charts as you play. I also suggest switching to a raise/fold strategy in HJ/CO and SB. No need to complicate your life with a 5% cold-calling range in these spots. Again, I'd suggest GTO Wizard for pf charts, but tbh there are plenty of free high-quality preflop charts out there.

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Now beyond that, the 30bb/100 loss rate is alarming. There are certainly some major postflop mistakes going on here. It's time to move to lower stakes. Don't feel bad, ACR zoom is said to be one of the toughest pools out there. There are plenty of soft club app sites you can try instead.

I think it makes a lot of sense for you to hire a coach if you plan on continuing to play at this stake. A few hours on coaching would almost certainly save you thousands in the long run.
Hey thank you again for your reply! So I built a report as you suggested.



I'm curious if this is for some reason different than above. I see what you're saying about BTN and SB opens relative the the %'s you suggested. The other ones seem about where they should be. I don't know if it's maybe because I don't 3b btn and sb enough? I also know cold calling 2b is bad but I was doing so as an exploit in spots where the blinds wouldn't be squeezing much and the opening player was overly tight/weak.

Ironically this is one of the only spots where I made money, when I put filters on it I'm a buy-in in the green. Sample is uber small though only 79 called hands in 12k.

Your suggestion is one I've considered. I'm not too worried about bankroll on this, I consider it largely an investment. I think trying to study and improve online has helped me in live games tremendously. I obviously want to win though. I'd consider $10NL again, $25NL hardly runs on ACR, seems there's a pretty big gap but I'm willing to learn at $50NL zoom. Just at the current loss rate it actually would hurt pretty bad to continue spewing off money like this if it happened enough times.

**Edit: Oh duh it's RFI, I'm probably not stealing enough of these weak suited hands enough, like Jxs, Txs, T8/T9o/J9o, some Kxo.**

I did post for a coach. I do consider it an investment. I really appreciate all of your advice. All of your suggestions have been really great.

Last edited by Soariation; 12-31-2021 at 12:01 PM.
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12-31-2021 , 05:48 PM
Huh, that's odd, your RFI looks a lot more reasonable in that latest report. I thought you were opening much tighter in LP due to the low vpip/pfr. I guess the nitty 3bet frequencies made your overall vpip much tighter in those spots. Still a bit too tight in late position though. Yeah so it looks like the main thing is just not 3betting/4betting nearly enough.

Good luck with the coaching man, that's a sound investment. Poker's not easy but I'm sure with a bit of practice, volume and dedication you'll see your results improve quickly. All the best!
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01-04-2022 , 06:16 PM


The shocking thing is how absolutely terrible my preflop ranges were in some spots before making adjustments. Feels like it all makes sense now...

And for probably the 10th time in my life, feels like I knew absolutely nothing about poker 2 weeks ago.
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01-14-2022 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Soariation


The shocking thing is how absolutely terrible my preflop ranges were in some spots before making adjustments. Feels like it all makes sense now...

And for probably the 10th time in my life, feels like I knew absolutely nothing about poker 2 weeks ago.


After 100,000 hands.



Am aware that some of the RFI and VPIP stats seem slightly nitty but ACR rake is unbelievably brutal. 3b or fold, and opening bad aces from CO and some of the Qxs imo weren't working out well with people who overcall BTN/SB/BB.

Felt like I ran pretty badly over 100k hands even, but I'll take the win. Any pointers appreciated.
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01-14-2022 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Soariation


After 100,000 hands.



Am aware that some of the RFI and VPIP stats seem slightly nitty but ACR rake is unbelievably brutal. 3b or fold, and opening bad aces from CO and some of the Qxs imo weren't working out well with people who overcall BTN/SB/BB.

Felt like I ran pretty badly over 100k hands even, but I'll take the win. Any pointers appreciated.
these stats are very basic, not much to say from them.

But, we can already see you're kinda playing overall nitty preflop, which is understandable with the amount of volume you play. This works at 10nl but will work less and less as you move up since it's a very suboptimal playstyle.

The thing about rake is not really relevant. In reality, the lower stakes you play, the wider your ranges should be because your EV doesn't come from dodging rake, but from the sheer amount of mistakes people make.
If I played 10nl again I'd VPIP around 40. This playstyle probably yields >10bb/100 at 10nl and probably closer to 20bb/100, but you obviously need to actually have an edge postflop to deploy it.
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10-13-2022 , 07:56 AM
Hey guys,

I'm very new and got told you can help me showing my leaks!

Playing NL2 mostly, yet sporadically, and I want to improve now and change my game to become net positive some day.









Any advice is appreciated.
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10-13-2022 , 11:13 AM
Your WTSD (% of time you take a hand to showdown) and W$SD (% of time you win when you go to showdown) are both very low. Which is odd because normally they are somewhat inverse of each other. My suspicion is the only way that can happen is if you are hyper aggressive with your very strong hands, so you get lots of folds when you have it, and then call way too frequently with some pretty bad hands, hence why you are losing so much at showdown without seeing a showdown that often.

For your positional stats it's much more important to see RFI (Raise first in) than it is VPIP, as that will tell us if you are playing appropriate ranges for your position.
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10-13-2022 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by aner0
these stats are very basic, not much to say from them.

But, we can already see you're kinda playing overall nitty preflop, which is understandable with the amount of volume you play. This works at 10nl but will work less and less as you move up since it's a very suboptimal playstyle.

The thing about rake is not really relevant. In reality, the lower stakes you play, the wider your ranges should be because your EV doesn't come from dodging rake, but from the sheer amount of mistakes people make.
If I played 10nl again I'd VPIP around 40. This playstyle probably yields >10bb/100 at 10nl and probably closer to 20bb/100, but you obviously need to actually have an edge postflop to deploy it.
The issue at lower stakes is the ridiculous amount of coldcalling of raises and 3bets, and multiway pots with stations and fish. People also don't raise, 3b, and 4b enough, so you can't call or raise against them as much as you're supposed to.
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10-13-2022 , 02:14 PM
Hi, these 30k hands are nearly all Ignition. With the exception of one 25NL shot which bombed, most of these hands are 5NL and 5NLz, with a little 10NL.








(CO total won skewed from 25NL shot)

Am trying to play a more aggressive approach in the last ~1k hands, not sure if I should keep doing so since I'm unfamiliar doing so.

I have roughly $400 as roll. Should I start playing mostly 10NL since 5NL is so bad rake-wise, or is it too risky given my profitability and bankroll? Not doing so well at 10NL but it's tiny sample size so not sure.

Thanks!
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10-13-2022 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Koss
Your WTSD (% of time you take a hand to showdown) and W$SD (% of time you win when you go to showdown) are both very low. Which is odd because normally they are somewhat inverse of each other. My suspicion is the only way that can happen is if you are hyper aggressive with your very strong hands, so you get lots of folds when you have it, and then call way too frequently with some pretty bad hands, hence why you are losing so much at showdown without seeing a showdown that often.

For your positional stats it's much more important to see RFI (Raise first in) than it is VPIP, as that will tell us if you are playing appropriate ranges for your position.
Where do I find it in HM2? You happen to know it?

Thanks so far.
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10-15-2022 , 03:22 PM
Hi everyone,

Below are my stats on the last 66k hands. The majority was played at 10z on Partypoker and the last 10k at reg tables where I'm trying to focus more and take notes.

Any advice on how to improve and what leaks I should work on would be much appreciated!

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10-23-2022 , 09:10 AM
Hi guys!

@Calcor shared a DB so I could help him figure out his stats.
Below are detailed statistics and my thoughts/advice. Perhaps you will have something to add.

If you are a beginner player and you like this kind of analysis - send me a PM and I will try to do something similar for you (it's free).

1. Results by limits


2. Win Rates by position


Estimated win rates (bb/100) by positions:

Blinds are the most critical.

3. Open Raise


CO should be 25%, but the most critical positions are SB and BTN - which should be 42-45%.

4. Call vs 3bet

The sample is small, but so far your 3bet calls look really bad. When you call a 3bet, you lose more than just folding.

5. Call open raises

Many unnecessary calls from free positions, especially on the SB.

As you can see, these calls are a waste of money.
I would advise you to play without calling. Just 3bet or fold. Use them only on BB.
Need to defend more on BB against BTN (At least 30-35%+) and SB (At least 40%+).

6. 3Bet

3Bet more BB vs SB (15%)

7. Postflop

It might be worth reducing the aggression and playing more straightforwardly at these stakes.

I leave postflop popups for other users to analyze.





To me, the most obvious postflop leak is overplaying hands in big pots. You give stacks to opponents out of the blue.
Most likely, you need to solve problems with tilt.
Some hands:
Spoiler:



Just stop it!

Let's summarize
  • Don’t play zoom.
    Until you start winning, it's best to focus on playing regular tables with a good selection.
    This is the most effective way to increase your win rate without changing your strategy.
  • While you are bad at SB and BB it is better to play full ring. The micros are still full of 9 max games.
  • Determine your preflop model and follow it.
  • Don't call open raises (BB only).
  • Be extra careful in big pots.
    Folding the Top Pair against a raise on the turn or river shouldn't be a problem for you (not to mention worse hands).

    I think this will be enough to stop losing and significantly improve your results.

Last edited by slyless; 10-23-2022 at 09:33 AM.
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05-04-2023 , 07:32 AM
Hi, can anyone give some opinion on my stats? Thanks

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07-31-2023 , 09:18 AM
8k hands at 5NL Zoom - any advice appreciated!




Thank you!
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08-24-2023 , 10:55 AM
Hi guys!

@craghack shared his small base for analysis (25k). Let's help him improve his results.

1. Results zoom and reg tables
Overall:

By positions:


In my opinion, the main problem is blind defense.

Target win rates by positions:
Spoiler:


2. Select

Merely 17% of hands come into play when a recreational player is present at the table. Given this relatively low percentage, I advise you not to play Zoom.
When a recreational player is involved, the aim is to achieve a target win rate of 10bb/100.
Enhancing your gameplay against these players is crucial, as they constitute the primary source of our earnings.
This is especially pertinent due to the substantial rake we face at these limits.

3. Preflop


Overall, your preflop approach seems reasonable.
However, calling open raises from the big blind looks not good.
It appears that you're employing a consistent calling range against a variety of positions, ranging from early position to the button.
It's important to tailor our defensive range to match our opponents' open-raising range.
For instance, if they open-raise around 15% of the time, our calling range should fall within the range of 10-15%.
If they're opening around 45% of the time, our calling range would be 35-40%.

3Bets look ok.

3. Postflop

The sample is small and the results cannot be considered representative.


I'd suggest widening your continuation betting range when you're in a position as the aggressor, aiming for a range of 75-80%.
Currently, your continuation bet rate stands at 62%, with instances of checking the flop and folding on the turn is 62%.
This can give your opponents the opportunity to adjust their pre-flop defense, knowing that they can exploit an auto-profit situation on the turn by capitalizing on their weaker hands.

CBet/Fold 60% is high but only 15 samples and I didn't find any of the hands you folded worth defending.

DelCBet on the Turn is also low (37%). Feel free to take down the pot more often with non-SDV hands when you get a second check from your opponent.
Spoiler:



There are also many fundamental leaks.
Your current continuation betting stat is low, accompanied by a mere 3.4% check-raise frequency and a 67% check-fold tendency on the flop.
These statistics could potentially present a favorable scenario for your opponents, as they can exploit these numbers to their advantage.

There are usually two approaches to this spot:
  1. Play from a high Cbet (easier but effective especially at low stakes)
  2. Play from a low Cbet but with a high check/raise (12-15%).

Look for materials to improve your strategy.



High folds on CBet, but the sample is small.
Low Float on the Turn.



Let's summarize
  1. Opt for regular tables with careful table selection.
    Even at your current limits, you can find tables that offer a promising expectation.
    This straightforward approach can be both effortless and highly effective in boosting your win rate.
  2. Focus on engaging with recreational players.
    Enhancing your skills when playing against recreational players can significantly impact your success.
  3. Work on your defense when in the blinds.
    Your performance in these positions can have a substantial influence on your overall game.
  4. Pay attention to your flop strategy in single raised pots, whether you're in position or out of position.
    Making the correct decisions on the flop is vital as incorrect plays at this stage can lead to costly errors on the later streets.
  5. Increase your aggression level when opponents display signs of weakness.
    At the stakes you're currently playing, opponents often struggle to defend their checking ranges effectively.
    This vulnerability presents an opportunity for you to capitalize on their weaknesses and exploit them profitably.
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