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06-12-2015 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RobberTown
Thanks sir. I know, I'm constantly doing stuff like AI bluff on river on super flushy board v TPTK or 2PR and getting called.. I just need to wake up really !
You make your money at micro stakes by value betting against bad players that can't fold. Change your style or stay broke.
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06-12-2015 , 04:51 PM
Feel like I'm hitting a brick wall, but also realizing that I must have some leaks I need to plug up. Anything you can say just from what I posted? What other stats would be relevant for good advice. I realize I play tight... used to FR. I play a good amount of HU though, and have been getting more into the 22/18 range recently. Thank you all for your input.

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The downswing:

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06-12-2015 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer
Feel like I'm hitting a brick wall, but also realizing that I must have some leaks I need to plug up. Anything you can say just from what I posted? What other stats would be relevant for good advice. I realize I play tight... used to FR. I play a good amount of HU though, and have been getting more into the 22/18 range recently. Thank you all for your input.

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The downswing:

I'd start by filtering for hands where I cbet flop and was called and see how I'm doing in those spots.

Your WTSD% combined with the high WSD and low WWSF is strange to me. It looks like you're getting killed in pots that don't go to showdown. I would also filter for those and look at them.

My advice would be to look at cbets, and double barrel spots to see if you can spot any bad habits. And to look at any hand that you saw flop and failed to reach showdown and look for any other leaks. I'm confident you can find a way win more pots which would slow down all the bleeding in nonshowdown pots you have.

Downswing stats look similar to first set. But looks like you cooled down at showdown a bit.
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06-12-2015 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mottotom27
except high redline style isn't the way to play at the micros. most winning players have positive blueline (showdown winnings) and negative redline, whereas the high redline players tend to be breakeven at best.

so you're being way too aggressive. need to calm down a bit
I want to see proof of the bolded.

You win $ by taking advantage of opponent's mistakes. Opponents going to showdown with inferior hands isn't the only mistake they'll make. We all make mistakes in nonshowdown pots too, and if you take advantage of enough of these you can have a good redline.

I will say that having a high redline in spite of a good blue line is not a good idea. Will also say that people probably focus too much on red line, leading to bad habits.
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06-13-2015 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xXHotBoyAces420Xx
I'd start by filtering for hands where I cbet flop and was called and see how I'm doing in those spots.

Your WTSD% combined with the high WSD and low WWSF is strange to me. It looks like you're getting killed in pots that don't go to showdown. I would also filter for those and look at them.

My advice would be to look at cbets, and double barrel spots to see if you can spot any bad habits. And to look at any hand that you saw flop and failed to reach showdown and look for any other leaks. I'm confident you can find a way win more pots which would slow down all the bleeding in nonshowdown pots you have.

Downswing stats look similar to first set. But looks like you cooled down at showdown a bit.
Was going to suggest similar.

It looks like you're double barreling and x/fing a lot of rivers. I'd suggest not double barreling with air unless you have a good reason for it (such as low fcbet/high ftcbet stats on villain). Do some research to which boards you should be cbetting and why not to cbet others. Consider your villains range heavily when deciding whether to cbet or not.

Your preflop looks fine, but might just need some work postflop to plug those leaks.

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Also your showdown winnings might just be a downswing. Not sure what else to say really, your stats look fine to me. Just keep grinding bro.
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06-13-2015 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by xXHotBoyAces420Xx
I want to see proof of the bolded.

You win $ by taking advantage of opponent's mistakes. Opponents going to showdown with inferior hands isn't the only mistake they'll make. We all make mistakes in nonshowdown pots too, and if you take advantage of enough of these you can have a good redline.

I will say that having a high redline in spite of a good blue line is not a good idea. Will also say that people probably focus too much on red line, leading to bad habits.
it's not the high redline itself that's bad, it's the consequences that come with it. most players with high redlines that i've seen do not have enough compensation for their blueline being really bad. there are a few out there who manage success with high redline style but it requires a lot of skill, and not many have achieved this at the micros (at higher stakes yes it's more common). what i'm saying is it's easier to win with a high blueline than a high redline because people call too much at the micros.
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06-13-2015 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer
Feel like I'm hitting a brick wall, but also realizing that I must have some leaks I need to plug up. Anything you can say just from what I posted? What other stats would be relevant for good advice. I realize I play tight... used to FR. I play a good amount of HU though, and have been getting more into the 22/18 range recently. Thank you all for your input.
i agree with the others that you're double barreling too much. especially considering your flop cbet % is also on the high side. you should give up more when you have very little equity, and look to check some medium to high strength hands instead of betting, especially against thinking players. so you're reaching the river with a very weak range as a result of overplaying your hands on earlier streets (hence the low river cbet %)

there is also a noticeable gap between your fold to flop and turn cbet %, mainly because you fold a bit too much on the flop. you should look to float and bluff raise more on good flops for your range where you have some outs to improve instead of just giving up.
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06-13-2015 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mottotom27
i agree with the others that you're double barreling too much. especially considering your flop cbet % is also on the high side. you should give up more when you have very little equity, and look to check some medium to high strength hands instead of betting, especially against thinking players. so you're reaching the river with a very weak range as a result of overplaying your hands on earlier streets (hence the low river cbet %)
Thank you for your feedback. These stats are from my only experience with 6max. When reading about 6max strategies, I might have over taken the advice that lower ranking hands are better since there's less competition. Also, I might have gotten more aggro OTT as I don't recall double barreling as much in FR. I guess I should try to keep my post flop play more like FR, while allowing myself to play more hands PF.
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06-13-2015 , 05:48 PM
I would appreciate some serious help in 2nl since my play is far away from optimal. If anyone could help me find my biggest leaks since I'm new to reviewing stats that would be great. It's a very small sample though but since I'm only playing casual more hands would take much longer time. My red line is bad but I've read that's quite common in micros since that's the blinds, right?

Is my VPIP to low?? And i guess that my PFR could be closer my VPIP. Also my WSD could probably be alot higher?



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06-14-2015 , 04:35 PM
Graph from the last month 4 tabling 25nl full ring on Bovada. Planning on moving up to 50nl. Any advice for the transition?

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06-14-2015 , 08:50 PM
I would appreciate any feedback on the following stats.I mainly play 2nl (6max) however a few thousand hands are from FR. This is my first time posting stats so sorry if there are any that I missed on some that are not really necessary.







Again thanks for any help.
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06-16-2015 , 02:33 PM
quick question. I am not very computer savvy.

PT4 on a mac. How are you isolating images from PT4 and saving them to upload on 2+2? I know how to upload. I just can not make the image.
Step by step would be helpful.

Cheers
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06-16-2015 , 04:29 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...-nl50-1539940/

my mistake to post in the micros area, i didn't know about this 3d! I know that's not a big sample, but I think is usefull for some read/big leaks to find, what do u think? if u wanna see another stats ask me
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06-16-2015 , 05:00 PM
NL 2 and 5.. I have been about 2 years without a HUD. This is my 1st jump back into using a HUD


CHeers



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06-17-2015 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PussyWhiner
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...-nl50-1539940/

my mistake to post in the micros area, i didn't know about this 3d! I know that's not a big sample, but I think is usefull for some read/big leaks to find, what do u think? if u wanna see another stats ask me
You play too passively postflop to support some of your preflop habits.
  • Look at hands where you cold called the big blind, looks like you cold call 25% of hands there.
  • Look at hands where you raised preflop and did not cbet. Cbet at 52% is pushing too far on the low end.
  • Look at hands where you call 3bets preflop. You only fold to 55% of 3bets but you don't 4bet much.
  • Look at hands where you call flop cbets OOP.

I think you could call too much preflop but then bleed money in those pots postflop. Also think you play too passively when you have initiative, which causes problems because you do actually open a decent amount of pots. Think that it is negatively impacting results (and redline).
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06-19-2015 , 11:31 AM
Recently moved up to 5NL. These are my stats and graph. I don't have the biggest sample but it's enough for me to notice that I'm doing something wrong.
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Position stats:


Cbet, 3-bet, 4-bet etc...:


Thank you for helping me!
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06-20-2015 , 07:15 AM
Hi All
Im playing 2c/4c on 888

Can i get some feedback on my stats please. need to know where i can improve






thank you
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06-20-2015 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LichTim
Recently moved up to 5NL. These are my stats and graph. I don't have the biggest sample but it's enough for me to notice that I'm doing something wrong.
5NL

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Cbet, 3-bet, 4-bet etc...:


Thank you for helping me!
It's curious to me how you go to showdown so little but are also only winning 45% of showdowns. What is your WWSF?

Aggression looks fairly high, I'd look at hands where I'm OOP postflop and are cbetting.

Probably fold to too many flop cbets, that may contribute to you having very low fold to turn cbet. Or you could be getting married to too many hands. Filter for those hands where you call a flop cbet.

Could improve preflop positional awareness.
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06-21-2015 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurotrash81
Hi All
Im playing 2c/4c on 888

Can i get some feedback on my stats please. need to know where i can improve






thank you

you're crushing mate. Don't fix what aint broken.
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06-21-2015 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by markodpoker
you're crushing mate. Don't fix what aint broken.
Thanks..
I know im going well.. but i know my game can improve, ive been working on my blind play which has improved, but still needs more work.

I honestly believe at this level 25bb/100 is sustainable and thats where id like to be. I know i am still making bad calls some times with not very strong hands as i am not reading my players well, mainly if they are tight players.
But i think i am extracting great value from fish

it has been mentioned before that i am not aggressive enough also. thoughts?

Thanks
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06-21-2015 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurotrash81
I honestly believe at this level 25bb/100 is sustainable and that's where i'd like to be
i highly doubt that lol. don't wait until you're a 25bb/100 winner or you'll be waiting forever. just move up as soon as you're rolled for the next limit.
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06-21-2015 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurotrash81
Thanks..
I know im going well.. but i know my game can improve, ive been working on my blind play which has improved, but still needs more work.

I honestly believe at this level 25bb/100 is sustainable and thats where id like to be. I know i am still making bad calls some times with not very strong hands as i am not reading my players well, mainly if they are tight players.
But i think i am extracting great value from fish

it has been mentioned before that i am not aggressive enough also. thoughts?

Thanks
It's all relative. Maybe there's simply a large number of aggrodonks in your player pool, and therefore playing passive is the best way to extract value. You shouldn't try and model your game on some "ideal" way to play poker, that simply doesn't exist.

The best way to play is simply make the decision which you believe will make you the most money. Always be thinking "how can I make money" and do that, rather than thinking "oh I have an OESD, I should raise and be aggressive!".

Basically I agree with motto, move up as soon as you can. You might be on a little heater, but your stats certainly seem fine and you're positionally aware. Your WTSD and W$SD are both good, so again, don't fix what aint broke!

You've identified where you think you need to work (the blinds), and that's great, but right now your stats in the blinds look amazing. It might just be because 21k hands isn't the largest sample in the world, but keeping up that winrate would be quite a feat.

If you're crushing that limit so badly, you should definitely move up. Sure you won't win as much, but you'll definitely learn a lot faster and hopefully eventually beat that limit big time as well.
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06-21-2015 , 11:52 PM
Ok thanks Guys

markodpoker I have "tried" to be more aggressive last few thousand hands and i think my win rate has dropped because of this. I think i will go back to how i was playing as it felt more natural for me and i wasnt trying to force a style of play on myself
And yes i was playing better slightly more passive so ill go back to how i was playing and my win rate was over 20bb/100.

for my BR management i am ready to move up a level. but i took a shot a week or so back and lost a couple buy ins and didnt feel comfortable then. i might play at this level a little longer and then move and have another crack when my roll is bigger.

Thanks for the advice guys

markodpoker that is the best advice ive been given on this forum thanks
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06-21-2015 , 11:58 PM
No worries mate. Of course you don't have to move up if you don't feel comfortable, but you'd be selling yourself short if you weren't taking shots and testing the waters. Glad to hear that you set a stop loss and dropped back down, that's the nature of shot taking!

Good luck and let us know how it all goes for you, fingers crossed you can keep up the winrate!
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06-22-2015 , 12:13 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...000-a-1525322/

This is my progress .. i havent updated last couple weeks but i need to.
Would love to hear your feedback from time to time on here
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