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04-09-2011 , 06:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJSyd
Yeah i was 90% he hit the set. And 100% sure he would call a shove if he did. This is the only reason i tried the move. In a perfect world i would have waited for a better spot. I guess all "good" players are folding pre and not making the move without the nuts?
Well i can say in short words why i dont play it PF is that what pairs can we play good vs a maniac? None, to low pairs so very tricky, flushdraws and some straights can be good to play but thats it and its not that often they hit and we are OOP also, 98s i on the line, TJs vs a maniac i think can be OK to play atleast if hes somewhat deep, but stil i want to play it pretty simple in this stake, i think we win enough so we dont have to play tricky.
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04-09-2011 , 07:11 PM
no real reads, seen him openlimp button once and fold quickly to a lead on 44Qr. how often does raising river work?


Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8868912

BB: $19.50 (39 bb)
UTG: $56.45 (112.9 bb)
MP: $111.30 (222.6 bb)
CO: $57.25 (114.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q T
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) Q J 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3, MP calls $3

Turn: ($10.75) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($10.75) T (2 players)
MP bets $4, Hero folds
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04-09-2011 , 08:47 PM
phos77: Well raising river..i dont know how you want to balance this on this stake cus i dont play nl50 but can you assume how many times he folds vs a raise and build a balance range for a bluff on this spots then go ahead. But then his range needs to be considered and our QT in this case ofc. For a starting balance range lets say balance with QT+, KJ+ i mean the upper range, the stox combos program can be good here to assume a pretty rough range to balance this and see how many combos we can balance with vs his combos and assume how much he folds vs a raise.

With some rought esstimates i think it can be pretty easy to get out. Hard to say here ecaxtly how but to start in a rough balance i think can be good. We raise let say 30 combos and folds 60+ that is our bottom.
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04-09-2011 , 09:26 PM
Wouldn't raise river because he's a fish and fish don't fold flushes.
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04-09-2011 , 10:02 PM
rush, readless.

i've just generally noticed this line to be a bluff more often than not, and there are a lot of gutshots and stuff that he can have.

(pre is possibly bad in rush)

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Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8872912

BB: $70.75 (141.5 bb)
UTG: $70.25 (140.5 bb)
MP: $155.25 (310.5 bb)
CO: $79.10 (158.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
SB: $41.75 (83.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1, BB folds

Flop: ($3) 2 K 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

Turn: ($7) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

River: ($18) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $7.50, Hero raises to $15
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04-10-2011 , 01:54 AM
I feel like I butchered this hand completely.

Only the villains 7th or so hand at the table. He seemed kind of fishy when he limped in the SB 3way in the previous hand and called a BB raise with A7o and stacked someone when he flopped two pair.

I was thinking bet/folding the river smallish but stack sizes were kind of awkward.





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    CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
    BTN: $20.11 (201.1 bb)
    SB: $10 (100 bb)
    BB: $2.53 (25.3 bb)
    UTG: $21.84 (218.4 bb)
    Hero (MP): $10.40 (104 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO folds, BTN calls $0.40, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.95) 8 5 K (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.66, BTN calls $0.66

    Turn: ($2.27) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

    River: ($5.27) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $17.55 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $5.27 pot ($0.35 rake)
    Final Board: 8 5 K K 6
    BTN mucked and won $4.92 ($2.36 net)
    Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$2.56 net)



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    04-10-2011 , 06:38 AM
    phos77

    I wouldnt call turn, to low odds.
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    04-10-2011 , 06:58 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vikingkong
    Wouldn't raise river because he's a fish and fish don't fold flushes.
    +1 this, i think i over think my post. But stil i think there is some OK in it.
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    04-10-2011 , 07:52 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by primone
    phos77

    I wouldnt call turn, to low odds.
    not sure this matters when his range is mainly bluffs?
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    04-10-2011 , 08:43 AM
    BB: $3.92
    UTG: $2.00
    Hero (CO): $2.00
    BTN: $2.00
    SB: $2.30

    Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has T A

    fold, Hero raises to $0.07, BTN calls $0.07, fold, fold

    Flop: ($0.17, 2 players) A 8 7
    Hero bets $0.08, BTN raises to $0.28, Hero???

    No reads, pretty much just started session
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    04-10-2011 , 10:29 AM
    unknown


    Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players

    BB: $10 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $5.48 (54.8 bb)
    SB: $3.50 (35 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
    Hero raises to $0.40, SB folds, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.30

    Flop: ($1.45) 5 A 3 (2 players)
    BB bets $2, Hero calls $2

    Turn: ($5.45) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $3, Hero calls $2.78 and is all-in

    River: ($11.01) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    [/hand_history][/converted_hand]
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    04-10-2011 , 10:47 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Srge
    unknown


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    BB: $10 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $5.48 (54.8 bb)
    SB: $3.50 (35 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
    Hero raises to $0.40, SB folds, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.30

    Flop: ($1.45) 5 A 3 (2 players)
    BB bets $2, Hero calls $2

    Turn: ($5.45) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $3, Hero calls $2.78 and is all-in

    River: ($11.01) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    [/hand_history][/converted_hand]
    buyin full. Otherwise standard
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    04-10-2011 , 12:49 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by phos77
    not sure this matters when his range is mainly bluffs?
    I can see your point on Nl50.
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    04-11-2011 , 09:45 AM
    Is river fold standard? Villain was 21/21 for 34 hands and I just didn't see him vbetting river with anything that I could beat.

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    Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details

    BB: $2 (100 bb)
    UTG: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
    MP: $2.20 (110 bb)
    CO: $2.02 (101 bb)
    BTN: $0.67 (33.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $2 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.14) 8 T A (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

    Turn: ($0.34) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    River: ($0.74) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero folds
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    04-11-2011 , 02:30 PM
    Entraction $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players


    Hero (BB): $10.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 3.3, Hands: 42450
    UTG: $19.50 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 3, AF: 2.4, Hands: 146
    MP: $10.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 17, 3B: 14, AF: 3.4, Hands: 270
    CO: $12.87 - VPIP: 70, PFR: 19, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 47
    BTN: $15.39 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 26, 3B: 10, AF: 1.5, Hands: 175
    SB: $3.68 - VPIP: 61, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 2.2, Hands: 62

    VS a fish with no reads, i give him odds to call the all in on flop if flushdraw but wtf to do, he can raise with KT also and straight draw, i played OK?

    IF no flushdraw out i think i call it and re-evaluate at turn then fold if he bet.

    Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q K
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, 1 fold, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25

    Flop: ($1.05) K 7 9 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.78, CO calls $0.78, SB raises to $3.33, Hero raises to $9.65, CO folds

    Turn: ($8.49) Q (2 players)

    River: ($8.49) 2 (2 players)

    SB called flop, post is buged.
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    04-11-2011 , 02:32 PM
    gorui
    I would 3bet PF.
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    04-11-2011 , 04:00 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by primone
    gorui
    I would 3bet PF.
    That is bad, he folds everything he beats and and continues everything that crushes us.
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    04-11-2011 , 04:08 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Auts
    That is bad, he folds everything he beats and and continues everything that crushes us.
    Well good, then we win right on the PF then.
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    04-11-2011 , 06:38 PM
    Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1273226
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    BTN: $5.83
    SB: $3.78
    Hero (BB): $6.32
    UTG: $3.52
    CO: $5.16

    Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with J J
    1 fold, CO raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.45, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, CO calls $0.30

    Flop: ($1.37) 8 8 4 (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55, CO folds

    Turn: ($2.47) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

    River: ($4.87) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $3.63 all in, Hero folds

    I think okish, betsizing is either perfect from him to line up that river shove or else ak/aq not wanting to bet bigger. I briefly considered shoving the river but reckoned there were no hands in his range I could fold out. Possibly raising flop would have been a good move?
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    04-12-2011 , 04:58 AM
    Rush poker, villain is 35/20 over 151 hands. 60% cbet.

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      BB: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
      UTG: $25.55 (102.2 bb)
      MP: $48.41 (193.6 bb)
      CO: $25 (100 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $57.03 (228.1 bb)
      SB: $39.07 (156.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
      UTG raises to $1.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.10, 2 folds

      Flop: ($2.55) 2 2 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

      Turn: ($5.55) Q (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG calls $3.50

      River: ($12.55) 3 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $7.50,




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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by gorui
      Is river fold standard? Villain was 21/21 for 34 hands and I just didn't see him vbetting river with anything that I could beat.

      Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details

      BB: $2 (100 bb)
      UTG: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
      MP: $2.20 (110 bb)
      CO: $2.02 (101 bb)
      BTN: $0.67 (33.5 bb)
      Hero (SB): $2 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB folds

      Flop: ($0.14) 8 T A (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

      Turn: ($0.34) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

      River: ($0.74) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero folds
      River fold seems standard to me. The average 2NL TAG is probably not triple-barreling here with anything we beat.

      I might consider donking the turn for value because I believe the average 2NL player will err on the side of passivity and check back hands like J9, JQ, QK, SC's with clubs but will probably call a turn lead.
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      04-12-2011 , 06:08 AM
      300zxrider
      What hands do you 3bet PF? I would 3bet this but i think its also okey to call it IP. He got a low flop CB so thats good. I think i bet that flop sometimes, it depends very much but on turn i just check.

      By beting will he fold a hand better then ours? Nopp dont think so, then check it.
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      04-12-2011 , 11:57 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by primone
      Well good, then we win right on the PF then.
      There is much more value in calling than raising.
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      04-12-2011 , 01:24 PM
      UTG is tag, BB is bad.
      does my line get paid off by worse enough at this level to jam river?



        Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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        UTG: $74.85 (149.7 bb)
        MP: $57.60 (115.2 bb)
        Hero (CO): $127.35 (254.7 bb)
        BTN: $22.50 (45 bb)
        SB: $51 (102 bb)
        BB: $133.50 (267 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with A 8
        UTG raises to $1.50, MP folds, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1

        Flop: ($4.75) 8 2 A (3 players)
        BB checks, UTG bets $4.25, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, UTG calls $7.75

        Turn: ($28.75) 5 (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero bets $17, UTG calls $17

        River: ($62.75) T (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero bets $96.85 and is all-in,




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        Quote:
        Originally Posted by 300zxrider
        Rush poker, villain is 35/20 over 151 hands. 60% cbet.

          Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8958052

          BB: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
          UTG: $25.55 (102.2 bb)
          MP: $48.41 (193.6 bb)
          CO: $25 (100 bb)
          Hero (BTN): $57.03 (228.1 bb)
          SB: $39.07 (156.3 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
          UTG raises to $1.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.10, 2 folds

          Flop: ($2.55) 2 2 5 (2 players)
          UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

          Turn: ($5.55) Q (2 players)
          UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG calls $3.50

          River: ($12.55) 3 (2 players)
          UTG checks, Hero bets $7.50,




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          The river bet is to bluff him off small pairs? I don't think he's folding that river after he called the turn often enough. Give up imo
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          04-13-2011 , 12:59 AM
          This is an easy call to the shove, but how did I play this?

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          BB ($1.63)
          UTG ($1.74)
          UTG+1 ($1.64)
          MP1 ($2.08)
          MP2 ($4.42)
          MP3 ($2.05)
          CO ($2)
          Button ($1.95)
          Hero (SB) ($1.51)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A
          3 folds, MP2 bets $0.06, 2 folds, Button calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.24, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.18, 1 fold

          Flop: ($0.56) 7, 9, 5 (2 players)
          Hero bets $0.56, MP2 raises to $1.93, Hero?
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          04-13-2011 , 06:15 AM
          Woops wrong forum.
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