15 hands isn't much of a sample for Vpip to mean a whole lot.
Hard to fold OTR when you fill up and only lose to 55/99 as I dont see many 4's in his range as hand was played.

Quick check please. No stats on Villian (Zoom on cellphone).

Called to set-mine 45bb short stack, figuring a 3bet will lead to shove-fold or outright fold.

Not too concerned with monotone flop especially with check call from villian. Put him on AT or flush draw of which I'd still be favourite on turn, leading to a shove.

Question here, should I even attempt set mining half stacks at the micros? thanks. For a 100 BB stack, I'd probably do the same preflop, pot control turn and call up to pot bet, which would result in similar outcome.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33883021

BTN: $11.01 (220.2 bb)
SB: $6.60 (132 bb)
BB: $5.05 (101 bb)
UTG+1: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
UTG+2: $5.20 (104 bb)
MP1: $4.44 (88.8 bb)
MP2: $2.26 (45.2 bb)
Hero (MP3): $6.28 (125.6 bb)
CO: $6.40 (128 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T T
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.52) 8 T 4 (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.50, CO folds, MP2 calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.52) A (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.45, MP2 raises to $1.61, Hero calls $0.16

River: ($4.74) 7 (2 players)

Hi guys, would you play this one any different? fold vs rise otf seems way too nitty coz we are basically only lossing vs 55, turn x/c not sure at all.

Thanks,

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
€10.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 05, 02:56:37 ET 2015
Table Gaudi 3 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 25, 3B: 8, AF: 2,5, Hands: 193
Seat 2: Player2 ( €4.71 EUR )
Seat 3: Player3 ( €15.35 EUR )
Seat 4: Player4 ( €6.40 EUR )
Seat 5: Hero ( €9.95 EUR )
Seat 6: Player6 ( €6.53 EUR )
Player2 posts small blind [€0.05 EUR].
Player3 posts big blind [€0.10 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kh Qc ]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [€0.25 EUR]
Player6 folds
Player1 calls [€0.25 EUR]
Player2 folds
Player3 calls [€0.15 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, Ks, 5h ]
Player3 checks
Hero bets [€0.41 EUR]
Player1 raises [€1.05 EUR]
Player3 folds
Hero calls [€0.64 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
Hero checks
Player1 bets [€1.85 EUR]
Hero calls [€1.85 EUR]
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
Hero checks
Player1 bets [€6.85 EUR]
Hero folds
Player1 wins €6.85 EUR
Player1 wins €6.26 EUR from main pot

Hey there,

Is this an easy 4-bet? Villain was an active reg, had like 32/24 stats.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 Spieler) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://de.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($10.19)
SB ($10.72)
BB ($11.07)
UTG ($3.30)
Hero (MP) ($14.22)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero ist MP mit J, J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, BB raises to $1, Hero??

Couple of quick checks please. 1.) 4 bet pre? 2.) fold river?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 89.2 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 55)
Hero (BB): 183.7 BB
UTG: 112.9 BB (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
MP: 193.7 BB (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 8 BB, CO calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 3 players) 2 8 6
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: (27.5 BB, 3 players) 3
Hero bets 15 BB, CO calls 15 BB, fold

River: (57.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 27.4 BB, CO raises to 77.5 BB and is all-in,

Quick check please, did I play the turn too weakly? Not comfortable shoving turn with TPTK, yet another bet would have me pot committed anyway. AA or TT would have shoved at the turn flush draw, yet 88 shouldnt have reraised pre and called Cbet?

Totally at a loss what his range is, first session on NL10 zoom FR, thanks for any advise.

I wouldnt 4 bet QQ at the micros as I find that usually goes to shoving against KK or AA when stacks are deep (I play 2nl and 5nl predominantly sorry)

But facing a raise and reraise, I'd fold if both CO and BTN are nits. Against unknown, I might still call (thinking BTN is isolating with Ace high) and hope to set mine, folding to any significant raises. Bloated pot OOP, I wouldnt continue against much action, looking too much possibility at AA - KK. looking too much possibility at AA - KK.

Villain just sat down and is Russian so safe to assume he is a total agro spaz. With no stats though is this meant to be a fold? I cant see him playing any value hands like 10x or 88+ this way.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #34015731

Hero (BTN): $11.16 (111.6 bb)
SB: $11.28 (112.8 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $14.56 (145.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 8
MP checks, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.33, 2 folds, MP calls $0.23

Flop: ($0.71) T 6 T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.40, MP calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.51) 7 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.51) T (2 players)
MP bets $9.27, Hero ??

Easy fold IMO

As a leacher in this forum for many years I decided to post some hands now.
I am mainly a MTTSNG-player and have difficulties playing deepstacked pots...

If you think about the hands that he will 3bet IP, and flat a 4bet, you're still ahead nearly always here.
This deep a lot of players will flat a 4bet with KK, sure, but they will also have AK, of which there are twice as many combos. AK will rarely fold the flop IP to that sizing, so its definitely in his range. Also any hands that floated the flop will now bet this K. So we cant fold.
I would call this and revaluate on river. I dunno if many villains would shove AK this deep, so you could probably check fold river.

I want to thank garyk5846 for the answer.

At NL10 Zoom 4-bet pots are quite rare. In many occasions it is just AA vs KK.
I made the old mistake to put the opponent on exactly one hand.
In this case - I thought it must be exactly KK after my c-bet was called.
But you may be right when you say AK is well in the villains range.
Unfortunately I had no information about the opponent prior to this hand.

So when he is capable of floating the flop with AK to take the pot down on later streets i would say he could have also shoved the river if i call the turn.

The way I played the hand was way too nitty/scared. The next time a similar situation comes up I will at least bet bigger on the flop.
It was an invitation for a strong player to take the pot away.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Yeah. we are of course not happy to see the K , or to see him bet out 60bbs. But we are getting 3/1 , and there are only 3 combos that beat us really(kk) , so he only needs to be doing this with worse with one combo for it to be an ok call.
It would suck if he shoved AK on river and we folded, But i would think the majority of the player pool would check it back with 240bbs already in the pot by then. We are also assuming he never bluffs turn and bluff shoves river.
Against a very good player, check calling turn with the intention of check folding river is probably a losing play, but i think in this case its an ok play. we shouldn't expect to be exploited that often.

It depends who villian is too. if it was a huge fish i would possibly cbet turn and shove river.
Against a spazzy aggro reg i would probably check call turn and plan to check call a lot of rivers.
Against standard tag reg i think check call turn/check fold river is ok.

Thanks a lot.

Your argumentation makes sense.
I must admit I played a bit scared and I was playing cash just because my bankroll dropped to a point where i wasn't able to play my standard MTTSNGs.
It always helps in early tournament levels to have a little cashgame experience...

Always nice to get help. It motivates me to get more active at this forum.

Party 0.05/0.10 fastforward, villain is a reg, but had no stats at that time as HEM1 can't deal with Party ff games.
Also, does anyone have any idea why all the tools convert Party 0.05/0.10 hands to 0.05/0.05? It says 0.05/0.10 in the poker client HH output...seems weird.

Hi there,

What should I do against river bet? IMO call is best option. As played, I'm not folding ever but I doubt if shoving AI is an ev+ move over the long run.

Thanks,

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #34168101

Hero (BTN): $23.75 (237.5 bb)
SB: $9.25 (92.5 bb)
BB: $11.17 (111.7 bb)
UTG: $5.05 (50.5 bb)
MP: $12.21 (122.1 bb)
CO: $4.49 (44.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 3
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.55) T 5 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.55) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.33, BB calls $0.33

River: ($1.21) A (2 players)
BB bets $2.90, Hero ?

Is this an alright flop to stack off here?
Villain is 29/13 over around 70 hands but has been super agro post flop which is why I didn't 4 bet him. On the flop I feel like he has alot of queens or jacks and some combo draws like J10/ Q9

Shove. You lose only to 46 and a slowplayed set. His range should be very Ax heavy, with or without 2p, and I think 2p will look you up often.

Thanks for answering. Looking the hand back I agree is a river shove, at least in this particular case where V doesn't show aggression up to the river. 99% of time he would have x/r ott a set of 55 or 77 and it's very unlikely to have TT. Will try next time!

No reads on villain. I'm completely lost here, is this a fold? Is turn a reraise? I feel like i'm against T8, 55, 88 a lot here and in the best case scenario AT for a tie

turn is well played. I would call the river. Yeh it doesnt make sense for him to do this with worse for value, but he doesny have many better combos, and its an unknown guy at nl2. Guy could have AQ or something weird like that

Thank you for the input. Yeah i guess i'm getting so paranoid because of all the nits playing 2nlz, that the maniacs just run over me w/ aggression :P Also, it seems like the playerpool changes completely everyday lol very hard to get samples on people

Zoom table. Villain was a 12/7/5 AF4 nit over small 70 sample. Did I lose the minimum here or should I have seen a SD? C-betting that very wet flop is fine?
I figured he was on TPTK w/ flush/straight draws or similar broadway hands that hit hard on that turn. Easy fold OTR?
Thanks.

First of all, I'd bet turn. But you are likely to get only 2 streets of value so delaying the bet til river isn't bad.
But...river fold is incredibly and unjustifiably tight. Actually, I'm having a hard time finding a hand we don't beat on the river: AA would have 4bet pre, and a nit wouldn't call a 3bet with KJ often to play OOP.
On the other hand, his value range OTR could have AT, AQ, 99, TT, even AK, 55.

Thanks for your thoughts. I agree after further thought it was an overly tight -EV fold. Although that board hits a nits range strongly for calling a 3bet, that range is still behind OTF. AA is the only realistic holding ahead that calls a 3bet OOP by a nit if it wasn't 4b as you mentioned. I normally would have called that river but lately I've been losing to some crazy variance so I'm a little timid with bloating pots I guess. This one I should have though for sure. Great analysis, thanks for the reply!