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12-23-2007 , 09:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaz2107
care to explain???
1 and 2 are fine imo.

hand 3 is spewing money imo. You are 40/60 against an overpair with 0 FE, 200BB deep and you are getting meh odds.
12-23-2007 , 09:57 PM
Hand one there's no reason to call the raise on the flop, you're essentially drawing to an 8... it's not a big raise but that's all you really got.

Hand 3 you're drawing to the ass end of the straight, nothing much else.
12-23-2007 , 10:00 PM
Actually hand 1 is kinda meh .... pf is pf, tho not in my range, but that is personal taste.


Now you say c/r's draws ... well the board is very meh, I dunno if Axsomething is in his range or it is mostly draws or ...

But you have a GS and nothing else, so this is a float .. the problem is you don't know where you stand ever ... and unless he NEVER would check the turn strong it is meh. If you want to fight for it then repot flop imo, but question is if he will look you up with a draw (you have nothing) and if Axsomething is a big part of his range making you draw very slim.

That board really smacks right into his range, I might well be tempted to check behind ... but If I'm betting then I'm potting it !
12-23-2007 , 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by n4rf
Hand one there's no reason to call the raise on the flop, you're essentially drawing to an 8... it's not a big raise but that's all you really got.

Hand 3 you're drawing to the ass end of the straight, nothing much else.
k hand one im basically calling with the read i gave. he cr me alot with meh strength hands. im getting good odds, i have 4 outs to win a 800bb pot occasionally, i can steal the pot on the turn like 80% of the time given the read i had on villian

hand 3... like i said i know he has an overpair... this means i have good FE against a nitty reg. and then as i said my frequency here is a combo draw, a set, a straight, or air (which means i only lose 50bbs so that doesnt matter much anywayz) so basically it doesnt matter to me if he shoves because he is losing money to me long term. i either have 40-55% equity or have him drawing to 2 outs. add this to the amount of FE that i have makes this an easy raise call here.


hope that makes sense
12-23-2007 , 10:02 PM
Hand 3 I don't mind .. high variance etc ... a wee bit of metagame, but with the history I'm sensing, then to me it looks just fine!
12-23-2007 , 10:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelford
Actually hand 1 is kinda meh .... pf is pf, tho not in my range, but that is personal taste.


Now you say c/r's draws ... well the board is very meh, I dunno if Axsomething is in his range or it is mostly draws or ...

But you have a GS and nothing else, so this is a float .. the problem is you don't know where you stand ever ... and unless he NEVER would check the turn strong it is meh. If you want to fight for it then repot flop imo, but question is if he will look you up with a draw (you have nothing) and if Axsomething is a big part of his range making you draw very slim.

That board really smacks right into his range, I might well be tempted to check behind ... but If I'm betting then I'm potting it !

I missed how deep you where ... but still, with the diamonds your GS is tainted etc .. I be folding flop. especially since if he has nothing he is not necesarrily paying you of, so you're in this does he have something or not limbo. Tho if you're sure that he has something and would loathe to lay down his hand to lagtard you, then sure ... call with the GS.
12-23-2007 , 10:11 PM
lol - this guy had me rolling

12-23-2007 , 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelford
I missed how deep you where ... but still, with the diamonds your GS is tainted etc .. I be folding flop. especially since if he has nothing he is not necesarrily paying you of, so you're in this does he have something or not limbo. Tho if you're sure that he has something and would loathe to lay down his hand to lagtard you, then sure ... call with the GS.
basically i do this on ocassion on the right type of flops because basically given how deep we r there are just such few hands that he can play a monster pot wit. add to the hand the bit of equity that my gutter gives me and me being in position i think this works great.

basically i call the cr and then if i miss my gutter and he fires a good sized bet on the turn it is an easy dump and i move on. but what normally happens against these crappy nitty regs is they c/r a ton of flops becuase "i miss tha flop 66% of the time" but then they dont have the balls to continue the bluff to the turn very often. so their bluff frequency is redic small on the turn and they r either vbetting the turn with a 2 pair or better or they c/f. more often then not they c/f because they r c/r the flop with a wide range and dont think my range for calling a cr on the flop is rather small and it decreases even more when someone like me is calling a cr on the flop and then making a big bet on the turn with
12-23-2007 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by P1zza_Man
lol - this guy had me hard

fyp
12-23-2007 , 10:15 PM
I really don't want to move up to $200 NL if I'm going to be losing pots like that
12-23-2007 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HBomb
I really don't want to move up to $200 NL if I'm going to be losing pots like that
i assume u will have a 30k roll or so when u get their so u wont have to worry about it.
12-23-2007 , 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaz2107
basically i do this on ocassion on the right type of flops because basically given how deep we r there are just such few hands that he can play a monster pot wit. add to the hand the bit of equity that my gutter gives me and me being in position i think this works great.

basically i call the cr and then if i miss my gutter and he fires a good sized bet on the turn it is an easy dump and i move on. but what normally happens against these crappy nitty regs is they c/r a ton of flops becuase "i miss tha flop 66% of the time" but then they dont have the balls to continue the bluff to the turn very often. so their bluff frequency is redic small on the turn and they r either vbetting the turn with a 2 pair or better or they c/f. more often then not they c/f because they r c/r the flop with a wide range and dont think my range for calling a cr on the flop is rather small and it decreases even more when someone like me is calling a cr on the flop and then making a big bet on the turn with

Makes sense ... I guess Im just stuck in 100bb world (I actually sometimes lleave when doubling up if someone is sitting with +200bb to minimize my thinking effort while playing)


Anyways I will hit the sack now ... take care all
12-23-2007 , 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaz2107
i assume u will have a 30k roll or so when u get their so u wont have to worry about it.

Holla 15BI rolls FTW !!!!


Just joking, I'm starting to appreciate being a bankroll nit myself ... good stuff



And HBOMB ... 200NL is nothing, wait till you join the ******s at 400NL
12-23-2007 , 10:20 PM
night little guy. sweet dreams
12-23-2007 , 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelford
Holla 15BI rolls FTW !!!!


Just joking, I'm starting to appreciate being a bankroll nit myself ... good stuff



And HBOMB ... 200NL is nothing, wait till you join the ******s at 400NL
400nl on ftp scares tha crap out of me lol.
12-23-2007 , 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaz2107
i assume u will have a 30k roll or so when u get their so u wont have to worry about it.
BR NIT IMO
12-23-2007 , 10:31 PM
im on a 10BI rule, if i go busto... oh well.
12-23-2007 , 10:39 PM
It's crazy how day by day one gets better at poker. So I can say that today I play much better than I did yesterday, etc etc.

Everyday you learn something new, it's crazy...


But something I've definitely learned is that you only get better by losing. even though it blows ass.
12-23-2007 , 11:00 PM
Brag: Been relaxing for a few days.

Beat: I've been relaxing because UPS is taking forever to deliver my new computer parts and I can't wait to rock out the dual-monitor setup.

Brag/Beat?: I haven't played poker in a few days.

Beat: Catching up on 2 day's worth of the brew sucks.

Variance: Holiday shopping is both enjoyable and horrible depending on how busy the malls are.
12-23-2007 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by thing85
Brag/Beat?: I haven't played poker in a few days.
Neither, and I think it might be a beat. Not playing on fri/sat/sun is pretty -ev.

I'm interested to see what traffic is like on christmas/boxing day. Drunk people everywhere, spewing chips to the hardcore (geeks?) who are grinding rather than partying?
12-24-2007 , 12:31 AM
Oh, did I mention I'm on a hot streak lately? I've been sucking out more lately for once (running good when a little behind) but for the most part, I'm not sure if my winning tendencies have picked up because of the fact that I now have a HUD


+3 buyins this past session... +18 buyins on the graph, +22 buyins profit in over 48 hours. I'm on cloud 9 at this moment guys......... poker

12-24-2007 , 12:33 AM
PSA: Hold'em Manager is now in public beta with it's HUD.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...56#post1947856
12-24-2007 , 12:36 AM
PT24Lyfe, imo
12-24-2007 , 12:42 AM
ok im not going to try to read 120 pages. but PJo asked for a trip report of TS in general, would anyone else care?
12-24-2007 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
PT24Lyfe, imo
2eitchisown i guess

      
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