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Ugly QQ spot vs psycho crazy maniac killer donk Ugly QQ spot vs psycho crazy maniac killer donk

01-07-2008 , 07:49 PM
he had been three betting me like every other time i raised (no exageration)

stats were 48/25/2.5 over only 35 hands

i usually dont 4 bet with QQ but bc of my read i did here

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $44.90
Hero (UTG): $103.60
BTN: $39.05
SB: $81.50

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $1.75, BTN raises to $3.85, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12.30, BTN calls $8.45

Flop: ($25.35) A 8 4 (2 Players)
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01-07-2008 , 08:00 PM
Meh thats a gross spot. Any tendencies on how crazy he is postflop? Assuming he is just as crazy Im going to c/c him down but not be happy about it obviously.
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01-07-2008 , 08:12 PM
If he's been 3betting you a lot I would say he is fairly weak here. Seems like a stubborn call on his part. Very tough spot against this kinda player, if he has a weak ace the chances are he won't be betting too strongly, so you won't do a lot of chips if you decide to check-call down.

Basically just comes down to your read, has he been cbetting flops light? Seen him fall out of line any hands previously to this? By his stats he's obviously a weak player, just depends if you can get a read on him or not. If you lead into him are you folding to a reraise? Would he only ever do that with the ace? Or is he capable of reraising this flop light?

V.tough spot, would be interested to see how it played out, I always have trouble in these spots.
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01-07-2008 , 09:43 PM
keep in mind he has one psb left on the flop

i didnt have extensive post flop reads but he seemed like the type of player that would felt his entire 3 betting range (which is gaping) if i checked to him, so i proceeded to check call, not wanting to fold out hands like KQ and other garbage that he would (i think) shove with.
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01-08-2008 , 05:01 AM
check call seems best to me too, hes only calling with ace if you lead.
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01-08-2008 , 05:03 AM
I also like a c/c but im also probably shoving PF in NL, I guess in PL there is no other way to play this
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