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06-27-2014 , 08:04 AM
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06-27-2014 , 08:07 AM
Notice how you didn't show winrate.

Alright dude, we get it, you're a fish who must have a good enough job to donate money to actual decent poker players at 200nl.
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06-27-2014 , 08:36 AM
You can't even help calling people out for being a fish in your own ****ing threads when they are actually still bothered enough to try and help you despite your posting history lol. Pretty immature and pathetic attitude to have.

I think everyone should just boycott your threads and put you on their ignore list, which is what I will be doing. It's a shame because some threads (not yours) actually look like they might develop interesting discussions until you consistently derail them.
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06-27-2014 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TWhelan
You can't even help calling people out for being a fish in your own ****ing threads when they are actually still bothered enough to try and help you despite your posting history lol. Pretty immature and pathetic attitude to have.

I think everyone should just boycott your threads and put you on their ignore list, which is what I will be doing. It's a shame because some threads (not yours) actually look like they might develop interesting discussions until you consistently derail them.
Lol anyone whose opening line is 'nice of you to confirm that you have no clue' isn't gonna be responded to well, even if it's Phil Ivey himself.

Especially not a guy who says it's +EV to flat 4bets OOP with 55, lol.

Yet these regfish get away with saying stuff like that but I get slated for suggesting we should bet a pair+flush draw+straight draw combo? It's a funny world.
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06-27-2014 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Lol anyone whose opening line is 'nice of you to confirm that you have no clue' isn't gonna be responded to well, even if it's Phil Ivey himself.

Especially not a guy who says it's +EV to flat 4bets OOP with 55, lol.

Yet these regfish get away with saying stuff like that but I get slated for suggesting we should bet a pair+flush draw+straight draw combo? It's a funny world.
You are a troll. He clearly did not say that, what is your problem?
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06-27-2014 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Notice how you didn't show winrate.

Alright dude, we get it, you're a fish who must have a good enough job to donate money to actual decent poker players at 200nl.
Winrate pretty irrelevant over 22k hand sample

Confirmed massive fish tho.

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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Lol anyone whose opening line is 'nice of you to confirm that you have no clue' isn't gonna be responded to well, even if it's Phil Ivey himself.

Especially not a guy who says it's +EV to flat 4bets OOP with 55, lol.

Yet these regfish get away with saying stuff like that but I get slated for suggesting we should bet a pair+flush draw+straight draw combo? It's a funny world.
Yes, I specifically said it's +ev to flat that hand. Those are my exact words. If you look at my previous posts, that is precisely what I typed.

You got told off in the other thread because others pointed out it's better to c/c in that spot, instead of betting (which is still +ev, no one disagreed with you).

Last edited by Calm Down; 06-27-2014 at 08:58 AM.
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06-27-2014 , 08:56 AM
In other words, you're a losing player at 200nl, since I guarantee if you were winning you'd post it.

It's funny how you will think it's just 'variance' too.
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06-27-2014 , 08:59 AM
You got me, I'm down four buyins this week.

Funny you say "just variance"

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06-27-2014 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Like hell you play 200nl.

Also, constantly redepositing so you can play 'higher stakes' doesn't make you better than the people at lower stakes - quite the opposite, in fact.
I can confirm calmdown plays 200nl and i can also confirm there is usually a 40 person waitlist when he sits

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06-27-2014 , 09:05 AM
So you started playing 200nl this week, and lost 4 buyins pretty much right away?

Bit of a stretch to say you're a '200nl player' isn't it? I could go sit at a 600nl table, play one orbit, fold every hand unless I get the pocket rockets, and claim I'm a 600nl player by that reckoning.
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06-27-2014 , 09:12 AM
I've played a mix of 200nl and 100nl for quite some time, that is kind of irrelevant to the points in this thread.
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06-27-2014 , 09:20 AM
Right, and you're a losing player at 200nl clearly (since if you weren't you'd post your full graph and prove me wrong pretty much right away).

Anyway to everyone else, the point is, if you can't get your ideas across without coming across like a **** it might be best to refrain from posting. Case in point - don't go into someones thread, tell them they suck at poker, then smack your cock on the table while yelling 'BUT I PLAY THE 200NLZ U MUST LISTEN TO ME'.

Last edited by Royalflush15; 06-27-2014 at 09:41 AM.
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06-27-2014 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Right, and you're a losing player at 200nl clearly (since if you weren't you'd post your full graph and prove me wrong pretty much right away).

Anyway to everyone else, the point is, if you can't get your ideas across without coming across like a **** it might be best to refrain from posting. Case in point - don't go into someone thread, tell them they suck at poker, then smack your cock on the table while yelling 'BUT I PLAY THE 200NLZ U MUST LISTEN TO ME'.
I guess this is your last post then. Nice.

You won't be missed.
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06-27-2014 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Right, and you're a losing player at 200nl clearly (since if you weren't you'd post your full graph and prove me wrong pretty much right away).

Anyway to everyone else, the point is, if you can't get your ideas across without coming across like a **** it might be best to refrain from posting. Case in point - don't go into someone thread, tell them they suck at poker, then smack your cock on the table while yelling 'BUT I PLAY THE 200NLZ U MUST LISTEN TO ME'.
I mean bolded is exactly you, and hypothetically, even if calmdown is losing or b/e at 200nl, i would still take his advice over someone who plays 10nl. Lastly, you havent posted any results as well so keep talking like you are a winning player when you clearly cant beat 10nl or else you would post results. Furthermore, there is tax concerns with ppl who play higher so that is also a problem.
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06-27-2014 , 09:36 AM
You really need to stop calling people out and listen to peoples advice. If they play higher than you they have something to offer to improve your thought process.
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06-27-2014 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowItDown
I mean bolded is exactly you, and hypothetically, even if calmdown is losing or b/e at 200nl, i would still take his advice over someone who plays 10nl. Lastly, you havent posted any results as well so keep talking like you are a winning player when you clearly cant beat 10nl or else you would post results. Furthermore, there is tax concerns with ppl who play higher so that is also a problem.
Lol why would I post my graph? So some regfish like yourself can come along and make some snide comment about 'gratz on the cheeseburgers dude'? I win at 6.5bb/100 at NL10 over a 25k hand sample size, FWIW. Inb4 you post a graph where you made 15bb/100 back in 2006.

I don't come across like a **** at all when I post, I just tire of regfish giving incorrect advice on this forum then getting all pissy when I put them straight. Then you all start the but...but...but...I play higher stakes! line as if those who play 100nl+ have never misplayed a hand in their entire lives.
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06-27-2014 , 09:44 AM
Thing is, I asked you many times to point out the flaws in the line of c/c 98 in that earlier hand, yet you just kept saying "lol reatards regfishes omg lol". You couldn't actually come up with any reasoning why we were wrong.

I apologize for the tone of my first post itt, that was a bit unnecessary.
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06-27-2014 , 09:45 AM
You realise a regfish at 50nl would still crush 10nl?
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06-27-2014 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Lol why would I post my graph? So some regfish like yourself can come along and make some snide comment about 'gratz on the cheeseburgers dude'? I win at 6.5bb/100 at NL10 over a 25k hand sample size, FWIW. Inb4 you post a graph where you made 15bb/100 back in 2006.

I don't come across like a **** at all when I post, I just tire of regfish giving incorrect advice on this forum then getting all pissy when I put them straight. Then you all start the but...but...but...I play higher stakes! line as if those who play 100nl+ have never misplayed a hand in their entire lives.
You were pretty funny at the beginning but now this is just sad. I hope you are just a dedicated troll and dont actually believe the things you say.
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06-27-2014 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowItDown
You were pretty funny at the beginning but now this is just sad. I hope you are just a dedicated troll and dont actually believe the things you say.
yeah +1

can't believe anyone would be this delusional
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06-27-2014 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowItDown
You were pretty funny at the beginning but now this is just sad. I hope you are just a dedicated troll and dont actually believe the things you say.
He is either a troll or under 16 years old.
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06-27-2014 , 09:56 AM
Heh, op is on my ignore list for a reason. That miserable little tw@t had been wasting everyone's time long enough and he's afraid to play me HU, so you should all do the same.

Also calmdown, I think its pretty silly of you to let yourself get dragged into this nonsense, I know you're better than that.

Lastly it's somewhat true that just because someone is playing higher his advice won't always be best. Sometimes you see advice from mdstakes players that is not exploitative enough. If you're smart you can think further than that and if you're smart enough you'll start seeing patterns there that will also make you stronger as an exploiting player because your thought process will improve a ton. If you're a massive moron you might start shouting at exactly those people who will be able to help you in that direction the most and you'll become the most hated figure on a forum.
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06-27-2014 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Calm Down
Thing is, I asked you many times to point out the flaws in the line of c/c 98 in that earlier hand, yet you just kept saying "lol reatards regfishes omg lol". You couldn't actually come up with any reasoning why we were wrong.

I apologize for the tone of my first post itt, that was a bit unnecessary.
I can't remember the specific hand, but it was something like a 17 out pair+flush draw, in which case the bet would be because we've got over 50% equity against a calling range and we're not too bothered if we get raised because we've got good equity against pretty much anything.

And alright, accepted.

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You realise a regfish at 50nl would still crush 10nl?
Let's draw a parallel here. I'm assuming you play something in the 50nl-200nl range. It's fair to say WCGRider/Doug Polk would crush the stakes you play if he were so inclined. If for whatever reason he posted in a thread you made and told you that you don't have a clue how to play, how are you gonna react?

Like I could go post in a 2nl hand and tell some OP who limp-called UTG he's got no clue (and have done in the past for lulz, in fact), but if I decide to do that I'm not exactly gonna be surprised if the OP tells me to **** off and calls into question my poker credentials as well.
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06-27-2014 , 10:04 AM
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Heh, op is on my ignore list for a reason. That miserable little tw@t had been wasting everyone's time long enough and he's afraid to play me HU, so you should all do the same.

Also calmdown, I think its pretty silly of you to let yourself get dragged into this nonsense, I know you're better than that.

Lastly it's somewhat true that just because someone is playing higher his advice won't always be best. Sometimes you see advice from mdstakes players that is not exploitative enough. If you're smart you can think further than that and if you're smart enough you'll start seeing patterns there that will also make you stronger as an exploiting player because your thought process will improve a ton. If you're a massive moron you might start shouting at exactly those people who will be able to help you in that direction the most and you'll become the most hated figure on a forum.
Lol if I'm on your ignore list how can you even read this thread? You just can't help yourself.
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06-27-2014 , 10:13 AM
If play higher than 200 and yes im sure WCG would crush midstakes and what ever he said about a hand i wanted help on id listen, and take on board everything he said. If he said i had no clue, which he prob would do, id still take it on board and wouldn't act like a child and have a pissy fit because he said it.
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