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02-14-2011 , 09:53 PM

w.a.n.g

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3 handed. CO is 67/17 over 6 hands. Villain is 17/15/12 over 796 hands. He folds to flop cbet is 67. Stuck on the turn....please help.

Full Tilt - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $52.05
BTN: $64.75
SB: $87.05
BB: $135.90
Hero (UTG): $50.00

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 6

Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, fold, fold

Flop: ($6.00, 3 players) 5

Hero bets $4.00, CO calls $4.00, BTN calls $4.00

Turn: ($18.00, 3 players) 7

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02-14-2011 , 09:54 PM

kbinferno

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valuebet

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02-14-2011 , 09:59 PM

mjbizzle

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if you bet it most definitely isn't for value

i wouldn't recommend betting at all

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02-14-2011 , 10:05 PM

MicroGrinder84

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,289

They can't both have 5x 4x very often.
If I were to bet, it would be a smallish 1/4-1/3 pot blocking bet. Then again I am kinda of a noob.

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02-14-2011 , 10:25 PM

HUDrealSOON

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 46

I'm wondering why we bet the flop. Is it mainly for protection? I tend to be this 2 way but not in a 3 way pot.

On the turn I check. That card adds little if any fold equity IMO.

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02-14-2011 , 11:13 PM

vikingkong

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Start by checking. Whether you can call depends on odds and action from both villains. Betting is making the pot bigger when there isn't any real need to do so.

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02-15-2011 , 01:05 AM

kbinferno

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this is a great spot to double barrel since we picked up equity imo

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02-15-2011 , 01:09 AM

thepaul1

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lol @ betting being for value

If you're thinking of bluffing, what hands do you expect CO to fold?

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02-15-2011 , 01:28 AM

subcon1

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Against a more solid opponent I could see betting turn as a semi-bluff, but a 67/17 isn't going anywhere imo.

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02-15-2011 , 04:19 AM

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MillerWhite

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Originally Posted by subcon1

Against a more solid opponent I could see betting turn as a semi-bluff, but a 67/17 isn't going anywhere imo.

this 100%, even if it is over 6 hands or whatever

i think flop c-bet is fine we raised UTG so a K otf smacks our range. if called shut down against these guys unless improved

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02-15-2011 , 05:47 AM

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Jiub

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 366

lol, co is unknown, that stats are on 6 hands! thats totally worthless, letting this influence your decision is ridiculous.
valuebet on the turn is ******** of course. and i would be more worried about button here, there arent exactly a lot of draws possible otf, what hand should he call with on the flop and then fold on that turn? check and call if you get the odds, otherwise c/f.

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02-15-2011 , 07:34 AM

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Harib000

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check the turn and pray we get the odds to call

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02-15-2011 , 02:56 PM

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kbinferno

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yes semi-bluff aka pretty much betting for value and if he calls its cool why all the "lol @" this line

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02-15-2011 , 03:01 PM

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MillerWhite

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even though we only have 6 hands on this guy, those stats indicate he has no idea what is going on. i wouldn't base any big decisions off of 6 hands obv, but i think its enough to know he probably isnt folding to a turn bet.

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02-15-2011 , 03:04 PM

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Alexander Young

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C/f flop, bet turn if checked through.

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02-15-2011 , 03:07 PM

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gsiciliano

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I don´t think you have FE in this spot, specially against two opponents. Check and call if you have the odds (you have to evaluate your implied odds vs who is beting)

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02-15-2011 , 03:11 PM

#17

GOONERCAM

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id c/f the flop a decent amount

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02-15-2011 , 03:12 PM

#18

thepaul1

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A semi-bluff is not "pretty much betting for value.". It's pretty much the opposite in fact.

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02-15-2011 , 04:59 PM

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kidacao

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Originally Posted by GOONERCAM

id c/f the flop a decent amount

why? we are printing money cbetting this guy , specially on this board.

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02-15-2011 , 05:20 PM

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Jiub

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Originally Posted by MillerWhite

6 hands dont indicate anything.

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Originally Posted by kbinferno

yes semi-bluff aka pretty much betting for value and if he calls its cool why all the "lol @" this line

so if you are "pretty much betting for value" what worse hand is calling?

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