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Turned boat with middle set facing check raise hero Call, am I ever folding this river? Turned boat with middle set facing check raise hero Call, am I ever folding this river?

06-30-2018 , 04:14 PM
Winning Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Converted at http://handhistoryconverter.com/

MP1 ($17.27)
Hero (MP2) ($10.13)
CO ($10.14)
Button ($11.28)
SB ($7.89)
BB ($10)
UTG ($21.31)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4, 4
2 folds, Hero raises $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) Q, 4, 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.31, BB calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.27) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB raises $2.10, Hero calls $1.40

River: ($5.47) 8 (2 players)
BB raises to $7.29 (All-In), Hero calls $7.29

Total pot: $20.05 | Rake: $0.76


I feel like since this is not a 3-bet pot QQ is very unlikely from V. V is an unknown. Turn call seems standard, turn 3-bet I think would fold out his bluffs, so we don't want to jam, correct?

I decide to call turn, and river seems like a safe card, and I'm facing a jam on the river. However, since the board is so dry I can't really see many value combos and I could see V doing this with a 2x hand, and possibly some AQ,KQ hands if V was fishy?

Is this just a call? Or can I ever fold bc the board is so dry? I've run into quite a number of hands also where this is quads.
Turned boat with middle set facing check raise hero Call, am I ever folding this river? Quote
06-30-2018 , 04:24 PM
I fold 22-66 pre until the CO most of the time. AP, hand is WP.
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06-30-2018 , 04:31 PM
Quads is one combo, villain never has 88 and only very rarely has QQ. Hard to say what villain could be doing this with but without some very strong population reads I don't see ever folding

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr
I fold 22-66 pre until the CO most of the time. AP, hand is WP.
Even if you're playing very tight UTG/MP you can still open 55/66
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06-30-2018 , 08:56 PM
I don't mind opening loose if I have an edge on the table. Apart from that everything seems well played. The only reasonable hand that beats you is 22. I see V doing this with air much more often than with QQ or 88.
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07-01-2018 , 01:38 AM
I mean, a nit is basically never bluffing here, but even vs. a nit you'd have to have some read that he doesn't 3bet QQ pre and/or folds A2s pre to justify folding here because A2s is freakin twice as many combos as 22. it's pretty rare that you have those sorts of reads. maybe very occasionally this is a fold, but even vs. nits you usually need to call. folding vs. an unknown is really awful
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07-01-2018 , 01:53 AM
Quads shouldn't really be raising and QQ is heavily discounted. Never folding. Did he somehow have 88?
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07-01-2018 , 10:45 AM
PF open is light, but, depending on table reads, isn't necessarily bad.

The rest is well played.

Are you using a HUD? What sort of read on the villain did you have?
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07-01-2018 , 10:54 AM
OFC fold, stop being a calling station.
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07-01-2018 , 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanBostick
PF open is light, but, depending on table reads, isn't necessarily bad.

The rest is well played.

Are you using a HUD? What sort of read on the villain did you have?
Why so many people saying that this is a light open? I would open all PP 22+ from LJ and basically play fit or fold for 22-55. Is this possibly a leak?

Also yes I am using a hud and V had like 7 hands on him so he was unknown.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus Ledd
OFC fold, stop being a calling station.
What is OFC? not sure if u are trolling
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07-01-2018 , 04:11 PM
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Is this possibly a leak?
If so many people are saying it, do you think they think it's a leak? 22-55 has little playability and we're often going to be oop.

OFC = of course
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07-01-2018 , 10:03 PM
You're gonna need to see villain's cards in order to fold here. Reads won't cut it.
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