So Villain hadnt been sat long but didnt show any signs of bad/fancy play syndrome. He looked really aggro post flop which lead me to calling a flop re raise that looking at in hindsight I would have liked to have folded.

Would you call the shove?


Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 54.6 BB (VPIP: 8.67, PFR: 7.36, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 370)
UTG+1: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 25.42, PFR: 10.17, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 59)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
MP+1: 220.2 BB (VPIP: 8.94, PFR: 1.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 123)
MP+2: 42.4 BB (VPIP: 14.91, PFR: 10.73, 3Bet Preflop: 3.41, Hands: 528)
CO: 115.4 BB (VPIP: 14.69, PFR: 11.22, 3Bet Preflop: 2.25, Hands: 492)
BTN: 125.4 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
SB: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 26.4 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) 4 6 3
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, BTN raises to 31.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 22.4 BB

Turn: (74.8 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 74.8 BB,

I think we are most of the times beat here. OTF u can narrow his range down to 44, 66, 33, A6c and maybe 99. Call otf is argueable but a 3bet otf is in most of the cases sign of trips and then on the turn u are about 99% ofthe time beat. You can really only beat a bluff(highly unlikely) or any other bottom pairs lowers than 88

fold flop yes. even if hes aggro post its unlikely hes doing this into 3 guys without at least a flushdraw+overs. Can also have any set, combodraws etc.

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I'd be folding the flop it's unlikely he is bluffing into 3 players, the bet sizing looks like a low set that doesn't want to give any one a good price at a draw

Yeah so we called on the flop and our hand didn't improve, so fold the turn no need to make a second mistake

Thanks all. I do wish id cut loose on the flop.

I folded the turn.

Fold flop.
Fold turn.

taking it to the flop isn't terrible.. better the flop isn't terrible.. but everything after there is.

Hi Gabe

You pretty much have this hand figured out already and we all hate those situations where a fold was better than a call.

Although we have an overpair to the flop the flop is just too wet to continue. There are SD, FD, SFD, not to mention those baby pairs turning into monsters.

With 3 other players I would definitely bet small OTF around 20bb. Also whats important is the V's 3bet size (3.5x) on your big bet. Either way we all need these hands to tighten our plays when we tend to get a bit loose.