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11-09-2008 , 01:45 AM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $50.00
Hero (SB): $53.00
BB: $19.80
UTG: $112.45
MP: $23.25
CO: $73.40

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with T T
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, MP calls $6.50, BTN calls $4.50

Flop: ($21.50) 7 2 8 (3 players)

Button is 39/32/4 over 28 hands. MP is 31/10/2.3 over 29 hands. I'm thinking I want to get committed against MP, but not sure about button. What do I do if button raises flop when I bet? If he calls, but then a heart or broadway card comes. I know I should have thought about this before 3-betting, but I didn't expect the pot to get 3-handed and be quite so inflated.
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11-09-2008 , 02:10 AM
I bet here and shove if button raises
If button folds and mp raises i'd fold if he had a full stack but call since he only has 1/2
i prob b/f turn if heart
if A / K comes turn i slow down...J/Q i still lead i think
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11-09-2008 , 02:30 AM
I am leading this and calling a shove from either player.

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Originally Posted by Ksight3
I bet here and shove if button raises
If button folds and mp raises i'd fold if he had a full stack but call since he only has 1/2
i prob b/f turn if heart
if A / K comes turn i slow down...J/Q i still lead i think
We can't lead 2 the flop and b/f a heart turn in a 3-way 3-bet pot.

Once we bet the flop and turn we are 100% committed to the pot.

If we lead both flop and turn for 1/2 pot which is still probably too small in a 3-way pot, we would be be betting $11 on the flop. And $22 on the turn if we bet 1/2 pot again. If button shoves on us you are saying we should fold for out last $10 getting almost 10:1 on a call?
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11-09-2008 , 02:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ksight3
i prob b/f turn if heart
if A / K comes turn i slow down...J/Q i still lead i think
I dont believe we have enough stack behind to b/f turn.
having said that, I have no problem going to the felt here against a half stack and a 36/32.
I like to just pot it here, since that would be pretty much all MP's remaining stack and if btn has anything here, he has to either fold or shove, which either way is not bad.
Basically you dont want to make any sort of bet where the btn can call and you still have plenty of money left and have to make a decision on the turn where there are a lot of scare cards that can come.

there is another option which is checking. By checking we hope MP pushes and we get to see how btn is reacting. If he folds we are snap calling, if he calls/shoves we might find a fold here. If mp checks and btn bets, being loose/agreesive as he is I think he can bet with enough worse hands that we can profitably crai. But we do run the risk of the flop getting checked through, in which case I probably b/f against btn
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11-09-2008 , 03:03 AM
good call. my mistake :O

i still fold to button's AI on flop tho
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