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TPTK vs river shoving cold caller TPTK vs river shoving cold caller

11-18-2007 , 07:30 PM
UTG has been a drooler like 40/6/1.
BB sits down for the first hnd, I have never seen him before. He has a full buyin.
I would assume he is not a winning regular but at least tries to be a TAG.


$2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5Players

BTN: $513
Hero (SB): $420
BB: $400
UTG: $325
MP: $211

Pre-Flop: A K dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG raises to $14, MP folds, CO calls $14, BTN folds, Hero raises to $55, BB calls $51, 2 folds

Flop: ($135) Q 5 9
Hero bets $88, BB calls $88

Turn: ($311) A
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($311) 2
Hero bets $101, BB raises to $257 (allin), Hero is like "my hand is face up, his hand makes no sense"


Comments on all streets appreciated.
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11-18-2007 , 07:32 PM
how bout a flush? that would make sense
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11-18-2007 , 07:33 PM
More PF. Push river yourself.
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11-18-2007 , 07:38 PM
Is it not better to push turn?
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11-18-2007 , 07:40 PM
how did u not shove the turn?
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11-18-2007 , 07:40 PM
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how bout a flush? that would make sense
Yeah AQ or QQ or AA make sense too. Problem is I have absolutely no read.
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11-18-2007 , 07:44 PM
god not betting this turn vs a drooler
gouge my eyes out
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11-18-2007 , 07:47 PM
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god not betting this turn vs a drooler
gouge my eyes out
i actually misread this too when i posted...he posted stats for UTG who folds PF
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11-18-2007 , 08:07 PM
still shove turn imo..... or?
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11-18-2007 , 08:20 PM
shove the turn imo,
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11-18-2007 , 08:29 PM
So this is the first hand the villain plays and he is 100% unknown otherwise. Given all that, the turncheck seems awful. Your flopbet also seems a bit suboptimal.
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11-18-2007 , 08:39 PM
shove turn
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11-18-2007 , 08:39 PM
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So this is the first hand the villain plays and he is 100% unknown otherwise. Given all that, the turncheck seems awful. Your flopbet also seems a bit suboptimal.
What do you do on the flop?

And why shove the turn, I doubt worse is calling
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11-18-2007 , 08:42 PM
c/f flop vs unknown seems fine. if you bet it tho def shove turn.
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11-18-2007 , 08:45 PM
c/f the flop for sure
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11-18-2007 , 09:01 PM
I'm such a donkey; I need a coach.
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11-19-2007 , 03:45 AM
turn was time to strike u hit ur bingo card and are on a draw heavy board that hasnt gotten there yet if he has a set or 2 pair its unfortunate but u shouldnt check because of ur fear of that and then valuebet the river when the most likely draw gets there if u do check the turn i might check call(ONLY WAY TO CATH A BLUFF) but tbh id probably fold if he moved in had i checked the turn
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11-19-2007 , 03:48 AM
oh yeah i also wouldnt bet the flop here because the board is very drawy and against an unknown he can have anything
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11-19-2007 , 04:52 PM
everybody says shove turn. Why?
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