SB is 25/14/2.5 over 400+
BB is 46/47/3.6 over ~50 hands; he made persistent small bets and called a small c/r w/ AK unimproved a few hands ago.

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Hero ($54.45)
MP ($27.10)
Button ($15.95)
SB ($52.80)
BB ($43.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, A.
Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.25) J, 8, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3, Hero raises to $13, SB calls $13, BB folds.

Turn: ($34.25) A (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero wonders if he's ever ahead after that flop cold call...

i think you go ahead and bet like 25 here. he probably has something like JT or QJ

I probably check behind. That cold-call looks super strong, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he c/r the turn here.

I probably call a 1/2 pot bet on the river, if checked to I lead for about 1/2 the pot.

How many tags do you know that would cold call a 3-bet OOP with TPGK?

25/14 doesnt seem all that tag to me

whats his wtsd? are you asking us how to get value? 2/3 turn or better yet shove. This guy is uber agro. He prolly calls with 2pr/fd and Jx. shove shove shove
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oops didnt see SB tagging along... this is really sticky I prolly bet here and watch for timing tell to see if I call a shove from sb LOL.

What are you hoping for playing AJo other than a flop/turn like this?

The TAG SB calls the PFR which could mean high cards, pocket pair, etc. He cold calls on the flop, which could mean an overpair, but does he play QQ that way? KK? AA? I doubt it. AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, MAYBE KJ or suited connectors in the SB. He could feasibly cold call with KJ or 9d10d, but I'd think a TAG would re-raise with trips on a two-tone flop; it doesn't have to mean trips necessarily. If your read is that he'd do that with the 15 outer, I'd make a PSB/3b here and if he's got trips, c'est la vie.

No way! JJ, 88, 44 have you dominated. Check behind for pot control and pray for your 2-outer on the river.

AC

sry, tagish. thx for the input.

Your flop raise is a little too big IMO. Make it $10 instead. After the smooth call by SB, I'm checking behind on the turn (as hard as that may seem). This just wreaks of a set.

AC

Hero, how are you playing? What is SBs perception of you?

that wasnt directed at you to be a smart ass

Are you playing trips like that on a two-flush board? I'm not, but maybe I'm a donk (very possible, granted!)

Similar to SB: 25/15/2.5, he did see me triple up from button w/ 54o when he raised AK utg and the the whole table cold called, MP(ATs) riased his flop bet, I called, he shoved, we both called on a A23r board.

Please show me a hh of a tag playing a flopped set like this multiway oop on a super drawy board (obviously this may be one, but I haven't had experience with this line). I realize he could possibly be cold calling in hopes of keeping BB in the hand, but he could also be playing a draw this way as well since he has to figure that his fold equity may not be great since op has shown that he likes his hand. I'm shoving the turn to protect/get value from draws and because I can't fold top two if he bets into us on a blank river card.

How bad would it be if I checked behind and folded to river shove?

I think it's weak-tight.

I agree that it's unusual to play a set this way, but I've seen it. Plus, the only draw that makes sense is 10d9d. I can't really seen him having any other flush draw since we hold the A of diamonds. So to me this is either 10d9d or a set. I just can't figure out another hand that would play this way.

I think we can all agree on a pretty limited range given that flop cold-call:

Sets: 88/44 (he did not flat call JJ)
SC's: KQ/QT/Q9/T9/T8/98... diamonds.

But how many of those SC's will a 25/14 call OOP preflop? As much as this is micro-limit and people play dumb, I think there should be two obvious truths here:

1. A 25/14 is usually position aware and is a lot more likely to call in the SB looking to set mine than with an SC.

2. Some people slowplay sets on all but the most dangerous flops because you're supposed to slowplay big hands.

Check behind and play pot control. Fold to any river diamond, call 1/2 PSB on a blank, spike an A or J -&gt; profit.

this really looks like a set going for the checkraise on the flop. You represent a top pair/overpair hand that tries to protect itself against the draws so there is no need for him to play his set fast. If he reraises you on the flop you would have to fold so he might have decided to play it slow to get more value.

I don't think a decent player would make that call villain did with a drawing hand, the implied odds are simply not there.

I'd check behind on the turn and call up to 2/3 pot bet on the river mainly for information as I expect to be beat most of the time.

To everyone saying check behind on the turn for pot control, what do you do on a blank river if sb shoves into you (please note that it would be around a psb)?

What do you do on a blank and he shoves for a pot sized bet?

You can't always be scared of the flush when you have a set on a 2-suited board, especially in a raised pot and you're heads up. Also, if the board is 2-suited and you have one of those suits in your hand that eliminates one of the outs. You also have to remember when holding a set that some of flush outs are no good for villain since they fill you up. If our Hero bets $25 into this pot and villain shoves over top of him now what? In this hand, villain just smooth called a $13 bet (flop raise by Hero). Villain is semi-loose/aggressive and those stats aren't donkish by any means. Red flags are going up everywhere and I'm checking behind on the turn even though we have top two.

AC

I'm more worried about a superdraw than a set. After the bet and raise on the flop, a relatively tight and aggressive player with a set is likely to just go ahead and push, especially considering how drawy the board is. I'm thinking his likely holdings are things like KQ, QT, T9, 76, or 65 diamonds, drawing to 12 outs and hoping that BB pads his draw. He might even do this with as little as T9 (OESD) or any two diamonds. It's also just barely possible that he's slowplaying an overpair (if he's fed up with you stealing and getting tricky/trappy) or that he's got QJ/JT and is hoping that you are FOS.

I just think it's more likely that villain is drawing than that he is super slowplaying a set. Since I just improved to the top two I'd bet $25 and call a push. On the river I'm checking behind on ANY card that doesn't give me a boat and I'm making a crying call if villain open-pushes a scare card (this turn bet commits me to the pot). Checking behind is just too awkward considering how many draws there are out there; I'm dreading almost half the deck, and so I don't want to have an ugly decision for lots of money when one of them hits. Deciding if a particular scare card killed me or not is never a fun chore.

I think this makes it more likely he stacks off quite easily and he's somewhat of a douche.

That, plus the fact that I think it's likely he'll 3bet a set a lot on the flop makes this a bet to me.

I think he has a good (but not excellent, something like a pair+fd) draw most of the time, or something marginal like JK or JQ.

JAM!