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06-11-2008 , 04:00 AM
This is a live NL game, £1/£3 (max £600)

Hero's stack = £400ish
Villain's stack = £390

Villain is generally a TAG player but I have seen him get it all in with very marginal holdings. I haven't played with him that much but the last time I did, I saw him shove over someone's 4-bet on the flop with KTo on a ten high flop.

The game in general has been pretty passive.

Hero is in the hijack position with A 7

Limps around to Hero, Hero raises to £16, Villain (SB) calls, 2 other callers.

Flop:

2 3 5

Villain checks, both MPs check, Hero bets £54. Villain calls. Others fold.

Turn 7

Villain checks, Hero bets £100. Villain raises to £320 (all-in)


Hero (???)



OK this may seem like a pretty standard fold but seriously are there any hands at all in his range that we are beating here??

Also how is the turn bet vs checking behind?

Is it possible that he has called on the flop with something like 67 and just thinks we are bluffing, or maybe he floated with AJ/AQ/AK of clubs?

Before that hand I was raising and c-betting almost 1 in 3 hands so I guess I had a loose image..

Does anyone ever stack off here? I can't explain why but I just did not like folding there.. someone sort it out for me please!
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06-11-2008 , 04:19 AM
i'd check the turn
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06-11-2008 , 04:29 AM
i wouldn't bet this flop
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06-11-2008 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SheepSuit
i wouldn't bet this flop
Why not?
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06-11-2008 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by voycontodo
Why not?
pls explain to me why you bet the flop first if you don't mind
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06-11-2008 , 06:46 AM
I don't really like a cbet too much with 4 ppl to the flop, but it is dry and less likely to hit hands, so its not as bad. I still wouldn't though.

I'm not convinced on the turn bet. might be good, might not, but as played, super easy fold.
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06-12-2008 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SheepSuit
pls explain to me why you bet the flop first if you don't mind
I thought it was a garbage flop that was unlikely to have hit anyone. Also because it was checked to me, I had position, and I was the preflop aggressor, so I thought I would try to take it down.
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06-17-2008 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by voycontodo
I thought it was a garbage flop that was unlikely to have hit anyone. Also because it was checked to me, I had position, and I was the preflop aggressor, so I thought I would try to take it down.
Problem is all pocket pairs call, all straightdraws call etc.. and it's 4way so I don't really like betting, unless I want to bluff 3 streets
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