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TPTK Check-Raised on Turn TPTK Check-Raised on Turn

12-31-2009 , 01:47 AM
IP I liked just flatting behind here against villain, though I don't always do this. Villain is playing a 20/16/inf over only 20 hands.

What are thoughts on the turn? Do you fold to the check raise or should it just be an over shove?

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 448983
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SB: $59.40
BB: $84.75
UTG: $61.15
MP: $50.75
CO: $52.00
Hero (BTN): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q A
UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 4 Q 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10.25) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.50, UTG raises to $28, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $21.50

River: ($66.25) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $28.40 all in, Hero calls $17.25 all in
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12-31-2009 , 01:56 AM
Have you heard of Baluga theorem? If not, look for it. Against a competent villain, your TPTK is good here about...never.
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12-31-2009 , 01:59 AM
dont think i'll fold vs. a guy with these stats on a 2fd board. i'd rather just ship the turn than call tho.
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12-31-2009 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
dont think i'll fold vs. a guy with these stats on a 2fd board. i'd rather just ship the turn than call tho.
+1, also Baluga theorem application is a little looser here because villain is PFR and cbet flop then c/r turn, if we were PFR/Cbettor it is spot on.
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12-31-2009 , 02:52 AM
If you want to go w/ your hand here, reraise all in on the turn because there's not much money left and might as well charge him for the rest of it.
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12-31-2009 , 10:05 AM
even tho this is definately not a standard for me, i think shoving turn is okish because his line is sooo strong and if he had a set on flop or spiked one on the turn having bet the flop it makes no sense to stop betting and take the risk of gibing you a free card, so i think he has some kind of nut flush or combo draw a lot here so i think a turn shove is pretty cool here, dont like call tho but a fold would also be fine.
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12-31-2009 , 10:12 AM
i like a c/b on the Turn, to induce bluffs on the River.

The J on the Turn isnt the best card for us and we only get value from KQ I think, plus we have position.

Shoving Turn seems spewy.
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