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11-21-2012 , 09:34 AM

playtowinalways

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UTG 54/0/afq58 fcb57(4/7) 26hands.
BTN 68/47/afq36 fcb(2/2) 19hands.

PartyGaming - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $77.62
Hero (CO): $26.49
BTN: $20.08
SB: $8.75
BB: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A

UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.00, BTN calls $1.00, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.35, 3 players) 5

UTG checks, Hero bets $2.39, BTN calls $2.39, UTG calls $2.39

Turn: ($10.52, 3 players) 6

UTG checks, Hero bets $5.75, BTN calls $5.75, UTG calls $5.75

River: ($27.77, 3 players) 2

UTG checks, [b]Hero???

Thoughts on checking the turn and why...

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11-21-2012 , 09:42 AM

Myopic Llama

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More on the turn and ship the river imo.

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11-21-2012 , 09:55 AM

playtowinalways

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doesn't sound good to me they aren't calling big turn bet with 77-jj they do call with worse Ax though and there is no need for more ott, cause it will be less then a psb otr anyways. And that 6 isn't helping us at all but it does help their range improving them to trips, and fh if they slowplayed.

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11-21-2012 , 11:12 AM

cbboy

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I bet a little more on the turn and shove the river as played. stack ax. easy game.

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11-21-2012 , 12:51 PM

playtowinalways

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So you believe they both have Ax?And if yes what's the point of betting bigger ott?

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11-21-2012 , 12:53 PM

cbboy

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Value?

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11-21-2012 , 12:55 PM

playtowinalways

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why otr either way we will have less then psb left.

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11-21-2012 , 01:18 PM

RotInHell

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I make it bigger pre, limping fish is almost commited already lol, at least to seeing a flop, and they call bigger pre in general if they intend to call at all. I might bet a little bigger on the flop but it doesn't really matter and just bet bet to get it in with sizing that makes the calls easy for them, you got the nuts and unless they show you some kind of aggression then it's just a cooler if they win :P

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11-21-2012 , 01:56 PM

playtowinalways

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so we just bet to get it in? It just seems unlikely to me that they both have Ax.

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11-21-2012 , 02:12 PM

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i personally don't see how a pair of A's is winning unless they're massive fish

however, you have to deffo ship river, and you're either betting as a bluff on the turn or for value, if for value bet $8ish

if they are fish which i suspect they could be by their stats (which i don't know how to read) then you have to ship cause you're always getting called down with worse Ax.

still think you're beat though against 2 players but then i can't see how it's humanly possible to go broke here with K5

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11-21-2012 , 02:35 PM

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PeoplesElbow

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b/f like $6-8, there gonna be super face up, a jam a bit strong i think and some Ax will fold here and obv always get called by 6x, if the pot was heads up, id bet the turn and jam river.

you should of bet the turn like $7 fwiw i think on the turn for value

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11-21-2012 , 02:40 PM

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playtowinalways

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btn has 10$ left and utg well has us covered.

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11-21-2012 , 02:43 PM

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Rebuild

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They are fish you have top pair lets go... No way i m ever not shipping this river.

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11-21-2012 , 02:48 PM

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PeoplesElbow

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Originally Posted by playtowinalways

btn has 10$ left and utg well has us covered.

bet $9.99

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11-21-2012 , 02:52 PM

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praFF

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I think your sample is too small to even start considering stats.

It depends a lot on table dynamics and what type of fish you feel they are(assuming they are fish as we seem to be doing) but I'm on the same boat with everyone else: bet bet shove. I think your turn bet is fine btw and I also think committing TPGK vs these two is +EV broadly speaking(only because they are probably fish).

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11-21-2012 , 06:23 PM

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playtowinalways

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Thx guys, next time i'll shove :P. I ch/f

. Though btn had 56s.

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11-21-2012 , 06:50 PM

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M1chael

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I agree with what was said earlier about betting more on the turn. The board pairing doesn't change much even 3 way here IMO. Vs 2 fish, you are betting 3/4 pot here for maximum value against the many Ax hands which are not folding now, straight draws, pair+backdoor flush draws etc.... We can't be afraid of the few 6 combo's and rare FH when there are so many other worse hands still calling down.

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11-21-2012 , 06:54 PM

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Chupemela

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dont check turn

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