Is my play here OK? I thought he could well be doing the checkraise with a draw+overs.

BTN: 110.25 BB (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 13)
SB: 66.25 BB (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG: 108 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (MP): 109.75 BB
CO: 33.5 BB (VPIP: 17.54, PFR: 17.54, 3Bet Preflop: 4.08, Hands: 116)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 2 6 J
UTG checks, Hero bets 15 BB, UTG raises to 40 BB, Hero raises to 99.75 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 58 BB

Turn: (217.5 BB, 2 players) K

River: (217.5 BB, 2 players) 3

But his range has you in bad shape.
So what if he might have 2.5~combos of 2overs+fd? (which has you at 50% equity anyway)

i x flop

We got basically the dream flop for our hand though, and I thought we shouldn't really fold top pair in a 3bet pot? If we call his checkraise all the money is going into the pot by the river anyway and by getting it in now we do so before any crap cards come (Q or A or hearts).

You weren't 3betting pre for value. It doesn't matter how strong your hand is absolutely if villain's value range has you crushed and his bluffing range is non-existent.

this.

You 3 bet pre-flop as a bluff and end up stacking one pair vs a range that's crushing or flipping with you anyway. See the problem here?

You're flop bet is huge too.

I think checking back the flop is good because getting XR completely sucks and hard to make a decision. If you knew he didn't call AJ pre-flop then I think stacking of is alot better.

What range would we put UTG on? I had him on, after flatting the 3bet:

TT-QQ, AK/AKo/AQs, maybe optimistically QJ and JT too. Not many hands on the villain though so it's difficult to say.

After the checkraise I put him on: JJ-QQ, AKhh, AQhh.

We're flipping with the overcards, crushed by QQ and one combo of JJ. We're beating any weaker jacks if he happens to be the type to to go crazy with a weak top pair (yeah I know, pot/kettle given the hand history).

If we just check behind and he comes out leading on the turn like practically everyone does in these situations, what do we do then? Assume we didn't turn 2 pair, but the turn was a brick, let's say 3.

Call/Call. Atleast you get value from bluffs this way.

i mean vs some players with good dinamics you can fire flop with the intention of getting 3 streets of value on some runnouts, making this almost a 3bet for value/semi-bluff pre
eitherway size is pretty terrible otf as mentioned
and vs that V i would just check flop and call call on most runnouts
don't think you can bet vs this guy tbh and bet/fold is not appealing because we can be folding the best hand

makes sense if we are assuming average reg, reggish stats so far.
Given this range are we then saying that 3betting pre is a mistake? Or are we happy to go ahead and 3bet for immediate fold equity - we definitely can fold out better - and that when called we have a decent read of his range and IP? But this range crushes ours so is this a good play with KJo?

def a good 3bet hand

Why?

blockers to KK JJ AK AJ
flops decent TP's, nut straights , OESD, gutshots when called, and not a good hand to just call vs an UTG open, without being suited, and without the agression

^ block KK, AK, QK, JJ, AJ, JK

Makes sense, thanks.

3-bet pre is kinda meh unless you have a read he's opening too wide.

flop sizing should be smaller, when he x/r your flop sizing puts you in a gross spot, I hate every option but probably sigh GII as this is so often a draw I think, although I expect to see QQ a lot or stuff like AQhh.

I've been trying to expand my 3bet range recently, and thought KJo fit the bill (i.e. top of our folding range, blockers).

He ended up having A9hh so I made a note not to 3bet bluff him in future if he's calling that wide.

The fact that he can have AhKh and AhQh is one consideration to make, but with all decisions you need to consider everything and weigh it all up.

Calling his 3bet is unprofitable because you're equity against his range isn't good enough, jamming is bad for the same reasons + you have no fold equity.

Remember, you raised pre flop profitably only because of fold equity, when he calls you are playing against a range that smashes you.

When you are considering cbetting for value or checking you need to consider the following factors:

-The frequency of the time you have the best hand
-The frequency of the time he will call your cbet with worse
-Your hands vulnerability when seeing more cards
-The frequency of the time he will bluff if you check
-The frequency of the time he will call a bet on a later street with worse in comparison to number two. (Wouldn't worry about this too much).

All the information you need is there with positions pre, stack sizes, your raise size and the board, all supplemented by any HUD information or notes.

Check the flop.

Hopefully this will help you a lot in general, some things to think about, also watch ansky on deuces cracked he is a boss.

In the absence of information to the contrary, would you generally assume a 3bet flatting range UTG is pretty tight? (and hence, has a KJ top pair crushed?) At the time of making the 3bet I didn't have any stats on how often he folded to 3bets as it was the first time I'd sat with him at the table.

I'm definitely prone to spew in 3bet pots though, especially ones I 3bet as a bluff then hit a weak pair in.

Yeh you force out most worse stoof and he can easily have you beat so just try and get it to showdown