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03-22-2010 , 07:45 AM
BB is the ultimate fish (30/7/2). Showing bluffs when bluffing. Running insanely hot atm. Overrates hands one pair hands.

CO is just a standard taggy reg. No specific reads.

Board:
UTG: $1,115
UTG+1: $1,000
CO: $1,198
Button: $900
SB: $2,295.75
BB: $4,607.15

Dealt to SB K T

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), CO raises to $35, Button calls $35, SB calls $30, BB calls $25

Flop: ($140) J K 8 (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Button bets $105, SB calls $105, BB calls $105, (1 folds)

Turn: ($455) Q (4 Players)
SB checks, BB bets $455, Button all-in, Button raises to $760, SB............

HELP
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03-22-2010 , 08:18 AM
Board: Js Kd 8c Qs
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
hero/ sb: 24.443% 21.22% 03.22% 9803 1489.50 { KsTs }
btn: 45.242% 37.84% 07.40% 17482 3420.00 { 88, ATs, As8s, KQs, T9s, ATo, KQo, T9o }
fish/bb: 30.315% 23.58% 06.73% 10896 3109.50 { ATs, KQs, QJs, T9s, 9s8s, 8s7s, ATo, KQo, QJo, T9o }

does this seem reasonable ranges?
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03-22-2010 , 08:53 AM
Include KJ in both, and sets in btns range. Maybe some awkardly played 88 in fish's range that is scared now.

In other words ... it's a fold?
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03-22-2010 , 08:59 AM
i would bet the flop
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03-22-2010 , 09:08 AM
call for ptr straight flush badge equity
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03-22-2010 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mused01
i would bet the flop
Would lead into the flop and fold to a raise?
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03-23-2010 , 12:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackwilcox
Board: Js Kd 8c Qs
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
hero/ sb: 24.443% 21.22% 03.22% 9803 1489.50 { KsTs }
btn: 45.242% 37.84% 07.40% 17482 3420.00 { 88, ATs, As8s, KQs, T9s, ATo, KQo, T9o }
fish/bb: 30.315% 23.58% 06.73% 10896 3109.50 { ATs, KQs, QJs, T9s, 9s8s, 8s7s, ATo, KQo, QJo, T9o }

does this seem reasonable ranges?

i think you didnt really consider the stacksizes.
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03-23-2010 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WRCZ
i think you didnt really consider the stacksizes.
yeah i saw that while i was doing it. i was merely making the point that even if we all had 100bb, we couldnt get it in here profitably if we assume those ranges.
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03-24-2010 , 10:14 AM
since AT and AK are impossible this looks like a call

but its just a pokerstove problem really..
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03-24-2010 , 10:55 AM
Ok so your problem is BB still to act right?
You have invested 0$ on the turn and could lose 2K$. Your draw is huge but not to the nuts, I think it's a fold both vilain could have straight, nut flush draw and sets. Stay spectator and look carefully at their hand to make a note.
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03-24-2010 , 11:00 AM
painful, but ez fold
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03-24-2010 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jayjaypg22
Ok so your problem is BB still to act right?
You have invested 0$ on the turn and could lose 2K$. Your draw is huge but not to the nuts, I think it's a fold both vilain could have straight, nut flush draw and sets. Stay spectator and look carefully at their hand to make a note.
Yes, my problem is that the BB is still to act. I made the fold, it turned out that button had floped top two (KJ) and the fish and turned better two (KQ). The river was a total blank...
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03-24-2010 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by t6rdur
Yes, my problem is that the BB is still to act. I made the fold, it turned out that button had floped top two (KJ) and the fish and turned better two (KQ). The river was a total blank...
Could button raise there? I think no. And then calling become the best decision.
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