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09-10-2009 , 02:28 PM
I only have 17 hands on villain, playing 13/0/af2, but his range becomes
pretty face up I think.
Just wondering what people think of my line. I think the flop raise is pretty standard, but I am curious as to different lines I could take on the turn. For example, would it make sense to check back the turn, since I'll basically be flipping with anything I get all in with (KT, flushes)
Is this a decent way of trying to reduce variance or would I be missing value against the few worse hands that are still in his range (AxKs, AQ, AJ, QJ although I think he probably reraises his two pair hands on the flop)

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($17.75)
BB ($61.85)
CO ($132)
Hero ($54.25)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, BB calls $1.25

FLOP ($3.75) Q J A

BB bets $1, Hero raises to $4.50, BB calls $3.50

TURN ($12.75) Q J A 4

BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB raises to $55.60 (AI), Hero calls $38 (AI)
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09-10-2009 , 02:34 PM
I think we have to valuebet the turn, theres just too much value in villains pair+FD type hands and of course everything stronger

On the other hand its unlikely that villain has an A. Do we get value from Qxs?
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09-10-2009 , 02:37 PM
If we are assuming he makes the flush on the turn you still have the nut flush draw and Q/J/4/A+any spade=17 outs i belive and your getting 2:1 for the rest of your money. This doesnt look horrible. If villain flopped the straight with no spade your in better shape. This would be tough to laydown imo
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09-10-2009 , 02:38 PM
Call, catch case ace or the deuce of spades, profit.

There's really no other line to take in this hand. Obviously if V repops on you on the flop, ship it, otherwise look to get it in now.
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09-10-2009 , 02:39 PM
seems pretty standard as we have a set and the nut flush draw
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09-10-2009 , 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zwanace
If we are assuming he makes the flush on the turn you still have the nut flush draw and Q/J/4/A+any spade=17 outs i belive and your getting 2:1 for the rest of your money. This doesnt look horrible. If villain flopped the straight with no spade your in better shape. This would be tough to laydown imo
I don't think I would ever lay down to a shove on the turn since I'm getting the right price to improve to the nut flush or full house. However, I'm wondering if it is ever a better line to check back the turn so I avoid getting all my money in flipping. Just not sure what hands I get value from on the turn.
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09-10-2009 , 03:07 PM
Top set + NFD = arrrrrrrrrrin
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