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Top 2 pairs 3way..standard? Top 2 pairs 3way..standard?

01-22-2008 , 09:30 PM
Again, a hand against unknowns. If it was HU, I would gladly push on this board. However, against 2 people, a flush seems more likely. Still standard?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $36.10
Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $31.65
SB: $41.65
BB: $91.70
UTG: $41.55

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with A T
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.00) 8 T A (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7, UTG calls $7

Turn: ($31.00) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $40 all in, SB folds, UTG calls $31.55 all in

River: ($94.10) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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01-22-2008 , 09:34 PM
I go broke here 100% of the time too. Even tho a flush is a large part of his range here, it certainly isn't his WHOLE range, which you beat overall
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01-22-2008 , 10:33 PM
Bet more on the flop. As played, the SB is getting 2.5:1 odds if he calls, and the UTG player is getting either 4:1 odds or 2.5:1 odds (depending on whether the SB calls or folds). Be safe and make a little larger than usual flop bet in order to make it heads up. I'd say that a $12 bet would be ideal. It gives the SB 1.8:1 odds, and if the SB calls, the UTG player would be getting 2.8:1 odds.

This is a drawy flop, so you really want to try to make it HU with a large bet. On the turn, you develop a mediocre flush draw, but the lack of aggression by either of the remaining players leads me to believe that they're on some type of draw. On the turn, given that a flush is really likely, I'd be inclined to check since there are no reads on these players.

You do have four outs to a full house, and that will come 8.6% of the time, but the most likely hands you're up against after the flop are a flush draw, straight draw, and a pair. Two pair would probably get yield a flop raise, as would a set. So in this case, I'd narrow the possible hands down to 8J-8A, TJ-TA, 9J-9A, JQ-JA, QK. Running this through pokerstove, AdTc will win 77% of the pot over the long run.

If anyone catches any mistakes in my analysis, please let me know!
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01-22-2008 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cryptic
Bet a more on the flop. As played, the SB is getting 2.5:1 odds if he calls, and the UTG player is getting either 4:1 odds or 2.5:1 odds (depending on whether the SB calls or folds). Be safe and make a little larger than usual flop bet in order to make it heads up. I'd say that a $12 bet would be ideal. It gives the SB 1.8:1 odds, and if the SB calls, the UTG player would be getting 2.8:1 odds.

This is a drawy flop, so you really want to try to make it HU with a large bet. On the turn, you develop a mediocre flush draw, but the lack of aggression by either of the remaining players leads me to believe that they're on some type of draw. On the turn, given that a flush is really likely, I'd be inclined to check since there are no reads on these players.

You do have four outs to a full house, and that will come 8.6% of the time, but the most likely hands you're up against after the flop are a flush draw, straight draw, and a pair. Two pair would probably get yield a flop raise, as would a set. So in this case, I'd narrow the possible hands down to 8J-8A, TJ-TA, 9J-9A, JQ-JA, QK. Running this through pokerstove, AdTc will win 77% of the pot over the long run.

If anyone catches any mistakes in my analysis, please let me know!
The pot is 10$ on the flop. My normal continuation bet is 7...being 3way, I could make it 8 but 12 is way overkill in a 10$ pot.
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01-23-2008 , 11:49 AM
Pot the flop... this is 3way, we got a strong, but somewhat vulnerable hand and the board is darn wet.

I still don't think we can afford to give a free card on the turn here, but it sucks that the flush hit. Meh.
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01-23-2008 , 02:00 PM
This is difficult... we don't want to give a free card on the turn - but you have to figure 3-way, someone was calling the flop with a flush draw. I'm probably checking behind here and just calling a reasonable river bet.
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01-23-2008 , 02:11 PM
check behind and re- evaluate river imo, unless villains are really bad
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01-23-2008 , 02:28 PM
pot the flop its threeway flop and board is drawy and are hand is vuln. I'd check the turn your only getting called by made flushes here.
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