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01-27-2023 , 07:08 PM

bkellz97

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Ignition - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 101.4 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 109.6 BB
SB: 86.4 BB
BB: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop: (24.4 BB, 2 players) A

BB bets 7.6 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB

Turn: (39.6 BB, 2 players) K

BB bets 18.8 BB, Hero calls 18.8 BB

River: (77.2 BB, 2 players) 8

BB bets 61.6 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 73.4 BB

Thoughts: raise from BB vs nit seems very strong. Turn/River play doesn't make sense with QQ, JJ, TT, so KK, AXs seems more likely. Biggest question is whether I might have folded to a smaller Ace, like A5s. Don't think he is bluff 3 betting OOP with tons of small Aces though... QsJs perhaps? Folding this hurt my brain

Last edited by bkellz97; 01-27-2023 at 07:14 PM.

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01-27-2023 , 07:25 PM

boulgakov

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Against a nit I think you can just fold preflop : the boards you might win a lot are diamonds and 99xxx, and there aren't enough of them to warrant a 9BB call. A high boards are dangerous because as you said those type of opponents have almost no small Ace (and no trash) in their 3betting range.

Flop is fine
Turn is probably a fold already
River I don't think this guy is bluffing missed spades and if he does congratulations to him, standard fold here.

You should not feel bad when you do a good fold, it is 100% part of the game.

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01-27-2023 , 07:27 PM

TRUSTtheDRAWCESS

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yes vs a nit just fold

dont see this being a bluff, almost ever

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01-27-2023 , 08:00 PM

bla

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Wouldn't fold pre against the nit, would actually call down. Bad nits - like on 5NL - show up with QQ here all the time, because they cannot ****ing believe people are not folding to them. They have their PF 3b chart in front of them, but never play a hand post. So they don't what to do, and since they are supposed to be tight-AGGRESSIVE, they just click bet.

I'd actually call down.

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01-27-2023 , 08:15 PM

boulgakov

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Originally Posted by bla

Interesting, I must admit I don't see much of those tight-nit preflop / berserk postflop players at my tables. You need a very strong population read to call down this exact 14/12 player here.

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01-27-2023 , 08:23 PM

bla

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Originally Posted by boulgakov

Interesting, I must admit I don't see much of those tight-nit preflop / berserk postflop players at my tables. You need a very strong population read to call down this exact 14/12 player here.

What do I know really.
I have no "population read" as you put it.
But I have played enough with bad 6max nits. Well, that's true.

Edit:
Well there was once a dude called "funkeemonkee". He was a nit, but a very successful nit: 19/16/11 in an avg reg population of say 21/17/8. So he 3bet a lot comparing to the "reg population". But he was very good at it, since he knew how to play postflop. At least in smaller games.
I don't think, a 14/11 nit will ever be good postflop.
But it's still possible that he got his numbers from some chart.

Last edited by bla; 01-27-2023 at 08:32 PM.

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