BU and BB are both whales, thats why i call preflop

UTG was 22/15 over around 30 hands

pre might be questionable, but seriously BB was extremely bad.


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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($4.15)
BB ($9.54)
UTG ($7.11)
Hero ($10.09)
CO ($11.91)
BTN ($10)

Dealt to Hero T J

UTG raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($0.75) 9 T 7

UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG raises to $1.50, Hero?

How often is he planning on stacking off and how often is he full of it?

Im not sure if calling or shoving is better.

Pre is pretty standard. Even if UTG's range is really tight, you should take a flop as long as you're relatively deep.

Postflop, I think you should ask yourself a few questions:

- Is he ever bluffing here?
- If I flat and he barrels the turn, what am I doing?
- If I flat and I hit the turn, is he gonna slow down? (on heart, 8, J turns)
- Does he have QQ-AA in his range, or is he polarized sets/air?

I would be inclined to shove here, without any extra info, since we're never really in bad shape and there are turncards on which you will not be happy calling the turn.

If however, he is polarized to sets/air and you think he is rarely bluffing here, there is something to say about calling flop and re-evaluating the turn

wtf @ pre being standard.

You don't think so?

I might be too loose, but I won't fold JTs, QJs type of hands to a single raise usually, even if it's a UTG raise

You obv don't have to start fistpumping when flop comes a dry Q or J high, but these are hands that flop really well so I will happily play them in position to a single raise.

Please argue why you think it isn't standard at all, I'm always interested in improving my game

Thats a huge leak.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.640% 38.30% 01.34% 377776228 13188918.00 { JTs }
Hand 1: 60.360% 59.02% 01.34% 582133040 13188918.00 { 22+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AJo+, KQo }

And thats versus a generous UTG range. We need reason to call pre, but with two supposed huge whales to act it seems fine.. but it's definitely not standard.

40% equity against villains range isn't even bad. I think our positional advantage makes up for it. Also, this isn't an all in preflop situation.. we have implied odds

I wouldn't call here from MP. If it were button or even cut off I would call.
I think it's bad to call if there are regulars left to act since you will get squeezed a lot but if the table is super passive then I think calling here is fine.

Exactly my reasoning. And at the 4nl tables I've been playing recently, chances of someone squeezing behind are really, really low. Basically AKo, AKs, JJ+ range for squeezers. And AKs, AKo will sometimes just call.

Should I always be folding JTs, QJs in +1, +2 positions against unknowns tho?

postflop advice...?

this

is why i made the thread, wanna hear someone elses reasoning, not mine.

probably nearly every damn time?

Let's take a look at action + stats, he has tag reggish stats so you can suppose he's playing pretty straight forward and opening a tight range UTG, he SKIP CBET to raise you on a wet flop, and he makes his raise 3x. Which kind of hands do you think he's skipping cbet to raise you, pretty much never with air as he shouldn't have a note on you so far that you stab everytime vs miss cbets as he only have 30hands on you, so now the hands he's raising with are probably two overs + nut flushdraw, sets, straight is unlikely as he doesn't seem that loose even if sample is pretty much irrelevant, overpairs that want to get in money before board gets too ugly to play his hand OOP. So we ruled out that he's never doing it with air and he has pretty good equity on the flop or he's ahead of you, you don't want to reraise the flop here, even less since you have position and you can take better decisions on later streets. Call his raise on the flop and re-evaluate turn, if you don't improve and he cbets pretty strong, i'm probably folding.

29,700 games 0.003 secs 9,900,000 games/sec

Board: 9h 7h Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.328% 50.46% 00.86% 14988 256.50 { JhTh }
Hand 1: 48.672% 47.81% 00.86% 14199 256.50 { 99+, 77, AhKh, AhQh }

We are flipping at worst, if he never ever bluffs here. But suppose he has KK or AA, we are ahead, so why can't we shove his raise? If any T,Heart,8,7,9,J,6 come, he will probably slow down and we won't get much more money, if any at all. And yes, I wouldn't call with JTs in MP pre.

11,880 games 0.000 secs 2,376,000 games/sec

Board: 9h Ts 7h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.111% 55.66% 00.45% 6612 54.00 { JhTh }
Hand 1: 43.889% 43.43% 00.45% 5160 54.00 { KK+ }

i'm getting it in on the flop, there is just no way i'm ever folding here, this is a flip at the very worst against his range, and prob we are ahead .. also think the call pre is very standard .. if you got it in otf wp

Getting it in OTF b/c villain looks bad and can probably be bluffing often here.

Hes stacking off a large amount of the time but who cares you have a load of equity, a small amount of fold equity and as hes a fish he can be doing it with something stupid that will increase your equity even more.

ohhhhh **** sorry didnt notice that villain wasnt full stack, just looked at his stats + line he took, then nevermind my post higher and reraise get-it in on the flop.

pre fine both sb/bb are fish.


flat there raise, were not really scared of any turn cards and can call another bet on any card

What's your calling range in that spot assuming players behind are unkown?

utg seems bad to me even if he was fullstacked. I mean even if he has sets or AA/KK why would he check a coordinated wet flop vs an unknown and risk giving a free card? I get it in for 70bb he can have 88 for as far as i am concerned and will fold on bad turns, we are ahead of overs plus he has only 7 combos of sets as we have a 10.

But that's not the full picture. JTs very easily outplays 22-99 IP, even has very good playability against AJo+ and KQo.

These weird checkraises of PFR's make really confused I never get these lines. People seem to do it on dry boards as well. What are good reasons to checkraise the flop as PFR in general? This might be a leak, cause I literally NEVER do that :P

The only good reason I can think of is when you have a very extensive history with villain, which is very rarely the case in the micros. So I never do it either.

I don't think a good player needs a cr range for that flop

maybe with some weird history

Balance

I think you can keep your ranges balanced by:

- C-betting strong hands
- C-betting weak hands
- Check-folding weak hands
- Check-calling strong hands

And mix in some overpairs and sets in your check-calling range, obv not too much because you want to protect those against scary turncards and they generally play much better if you just c-bet.

I just really don't see the point in having a cr-range here since we would have to balance that and we're much better off c-betting air

your own balance is really the last thing you should care about when you are playing nl10

Well that's true