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10-17-2008 , 06:46 PM

NxtWrldChamp

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villain is running at 21/16 but he plays quite a bit looser from the CO and BTN
seems to be calling 3 bets a little too wide ime

hero is running 19/16 with 8% 3 bet

hows this line? is the river shove too thin?

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $800.00
Hero (BTN): $964.70
SB: $402.00
BB: $418.00
UTG: $1106.00
MP: $926.50

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with A

2 folds, CO raises to $14, Hero raises to $54, 2 folds, CO calls $40

Flop: ($114.00) 4

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $80, CO calls $80

Turn: ($274.00) A

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $250, CO calls $250

River: ($774.00) 2

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $580.70 all in

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10-17-2008 , 06:52 PM

olof86

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I like, maybe a lill less on turn though

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10-17-2008 , 07:09 PM

AAismyfriend

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looks good.

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10-17-2008 , 07:15 PM

luckybacon

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i think this is to thin

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10-17-2008 , 07:30 PM

leveled

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If he's good you should check.

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10-18-2008 , 12:23 AM

RollinHand

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Originally Posted by leveled

If he's good you should check.

but if he's really good you should bet.

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10-18-2008 , 12:28 AM

muttiah

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Fine. I'd check turn a bunch, but def bet river if I bet turn.

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10-18-2008 , 12:37 AM

NxtWrldChamp

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why would you want to check the turn?

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10-18-2008 , 12:38 AM

Pwoita

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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp

seems to be calling 3 bets a little too wide ime

Then stop 3betting A5s?

Otherwise looks good.

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10-18-2008 , 01:06 AM

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Jurrr

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I like the river bet though it is indeed thin. That said, I think he has 2pr+ or you have him beat so go for it.

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10-18-2008 , 01:32 AM

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NxtWrldChamp

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this villain is pretty bad IMO and does some really spewwy things
such as ive seen him flat 4 bets oop with Q8s and c/c the flop with 2nd pair
so im not sure if it makes this shove better or worse

anyway he went into the timebank for like 30 sec. before calling with AT

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10-18-2008 , 01:37 AM

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Noam Chomsky

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Originally Posted by Pwoita

Then stop 3betting A5s?

um..........no

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10-18-2008 , 01:52 AM

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NxtWrldChamp

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^ what i was thinking...

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10-18-2008 , 03:50 AM

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jpz99

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LOVE the turn betsize

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10-18-2008 , 03:50 AM

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jpz99

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and lol at hero runnning 19/16- more like 12/9

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10-18-2008 , 05:07 AM

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NinaWilliams

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Originally Posted by leveled

If he's good you should check.

Seems like this kind of play is targetting someone that's good enough to recognize that the A is a good double barrel card and remove A5s type hands from your range on the river thus viewing your range as being pretty polarized.

Off topic, but does anyone like flatting a lot more than 3 betting vs this specific villain?

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10-18-2008 , 07:37 AM

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Pwoita

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Originally Posted by Noam Chomsky

um..........no

10% of the time we hit a good draw, 90% of the time we effectively have A5o oop in a 3bet pot. OP said he calling too much. I don't get why we went to be in this situation with A5s on the flop in that case.

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10-18-2008 , 07:47 AM

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Clever Nickname

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I think he talks himself into a hero call more often than he has you beat, so I like it.

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10-18-2008 , 09:48 AM

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Jurrr

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Originally Posted by Pwoita

10% of the time we hit a good draw, 90% of the time we effectively have A5o oop in a 3bet pot. OP said he calling too much. I don't get why we went to be in this situation with A5s on the flop in that case.

no, we are BTN

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10-18-2008 , 12:19 PM

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Pwoita

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Originally Posted by Jurrr

no, we are BTN

ah balls

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