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01-07-2008 , 07:19 PM
I know there are several factors to choice a table in micro stakes. In site like pokerstars or other big sites, I think table selection is very important.

What do you think is the most profitable, table with a huge VPIP like 60% but very small pots like 1-2$ (NL25) or table with very big pots (6-7$) and smaller VPIP(30-35$)?

and why?
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01-07-2008 , 07:21 PM
I'm not an expert on table selection but I just go by # of players seeing flop and then check for biggest pots. If I open up the table and see a ton of shortstacks, I usually won't sit.
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01-07-2008 , 07:28 PM
I play mostly at tables with no short-stackers (or at least with only a few), because i love aggressive play with raising limpers all the way, and short stacks are really disturbing me sometimes.

Big pot tables are a little bit better for me, because often someone overplay top pairs there. But i like small pot tables too, because they are almost everytime weak-tight.
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01-07-2008 , 07:48 PM
big pots, big vpip, big stacks.
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01-07-2008 , 09:03 PM
Table with a huge VPIP, cause TAG style is better vs loose players.
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01-08-2008 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by seki
big pots, big vpip, big stacks.
+1.
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01-08-2008 , 02:37 PM
I have it sorted by limit/avgpot/plyrsflop
Once on the table I look for decent stacks & loose play.
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01-08-2008 , 02:56 PM
Since I play 12 tables I have to take in many kinds of hands.

Anyway, I try to avoid the nit vs. nit tables because I think many NL50 regulars that are quite solid players are tight agressive and a VPIP of less than 20% is not an attraction for me even if the average pot size is big.

I tend to sort by saw-flop and then take the loose tables with at least 5$ average pot. Also, I like to play deep, so no more than 2-3 ministacks in the tables and not more than one of them to my left (3 seats to left).
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01-08-2008 , 04:30 PM
the only thing im looking for is full stacks and % of players per flop
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01-09-2008 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zyrrth
the only thing im looking for is full stacks and % of players per flop
+Hands/hour lower than 65.
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01-09-2008 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBad
+Hands/hour lower than 65.
I'm curious. Why are you looking for a low hands/hr? Is this telling you something specific?
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01-09-2008 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kindling
I'm curious. Why are you looking for a low hands/hr? Is this telling you something specific?
likely that a couple of the people at the table are multi-tabling
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01-09-2008 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kindling
I'm curious. Why are you looking for a low hands/hr? Is this telling you something specific?
means there are more flops being seen, and a lot more play post flop.

players per flop isn't that useful if 4/5 hands are taken down preflop
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01-09-2008 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Eggpie
means there are more flops being seen, and a lot more play post flop.

players per flop isn't that useful if 4/5 hands are taken down preflop
I learned something today!
Thanks!
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01-09-2008 , 04:25 PM
I haven't considered the hands/hr in my table selection, but that's an interesting way to choose between comparable tables.

I usually notice that the high hands/hr is due to fewer people sitting in. So it's like a short-handed game. So I avoid it when it says 80+ hands/hr, particularly if there's open seats. Likely there's just a couple of guys sitting in, and I'm looking to play FR, not short-handed.

I used to think that REALLY slow tables might include more n00bs and/or multi-tablers, but I've never checked if that's really the case. I tend to avoid it, because it could also be someone with a bad connection.

Regarding multi-tablers, are you trying to sit at tables with them? It seems like that's likely -EV, unless that's part of your game plan.

Thanks for the above insights! I'll have to consider these factors in my table selection in the future as well.
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01-09-2008 , 04:31 PM
5 Shorties at a table. Vpip -> High. Now a dozen 12-tabling nits are going to sit down and join the waiting list. Now, we have a high VPIP and a couple of full stacks, but a table full of nits.. IF the VPIP is high, and Hands/hours low, we have a table with truly loose opponents
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01-09-2008 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBad
5 Shorties at a table. Vpip -> High. Now a dozen 12-tabling nits are going to sit down and join the waiting list. Now, we have a high VPIP and a couple of full stacks, but a table full of nits.. IF the VPIP is high, and Hands/hours low, we have a table with truly loose opponents
OK, I've read your post like 5 times and I still don't understand what you're saying (except for the last sentence)...maybe I'm just tired
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01-09-2008 , 10:32 PM
Old Yurop, i am not a native speaker -> Sorry. Now i am tired (4am here), but i wil try.

Most multitabling tags will sort tables in the lobby by Plrs/Flop and join a table they think is loose. However, most loose noobs will never join a waiting list, but sit down at a table with free seats:

A TAG starts a new table -> Within a couple of minutes a couple of loose shorties are going to sit down -> "Plrs Flop" becomes high -> Multitabling nits join the waiting list and sit down when a seat becomes free -> "Plrs Flop" is high, but table is full of nits.

You can identify these tables by looking at "Hands/hour". A high "Hands/hour" value indicates that the game was shorthanded in the last 20 minutes and thus the "Plrs/flop" value donīt reflect the true nature off the game at this special table.

If "Hands/hours" is low and "plrs flop" is high, this means you found some real fish, or at leat some loose players who know how to reload.

I hope this was easier to understand and that everyone agrees
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01-10-2008 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBad
Old Yurop, i am not a native speaker -> Sorry. Now i am tired (4am here), but i wil try.

Most multitabling tags will sort tables in the lobby by Plrs/Flop and join a table they think is loose. However, most loose noobs will never join a waiting list, but sit down at a table with free seats:

A TAG starts a new table -> Within a couple of minutes a couple of loose shorties are going to sit down -> "Plrs Flop" becomes high -> Multitabling nits join the waiting list and sit down when a seat becomes free -> "Plrs Flop" is high, but table is full of nits.

You can identify these tables by looking at "Hands/hour". A high "Hands/hour" value indicates that the game was shorthanded in the last 20 minutes and thus the "Plrs/flop" value donīt reflect the true nature off the game at this special table.

If "Hands/hours" is low and "plrs flop" is high, this means you found some real fish, or at leat some loose players who know how to reload.

I hope this was easier to understand and that everyone agrees
Makes much more sense now...thanks for the clarification
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01-10-2008 , 11:11 AM
The first 20 with the biggest players/flop %age where there's 6 or more players.
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