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04-22-2020 , 04:58 AM

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jeccross

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Originally Posted by D-Beat

Thanks for all of the responses:

Spoiler:

Any argument for a $35-$50 3b over shoving? 12x is pretty extreme, but these things are happening a lot with quarantine and new blood and bored blood (and presumably drunk blood) opening out of nowhere to 6-8x and I'm freezing no matter what I have.

And he folded?

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04-22-2020 , 05:00 AM

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jeccross

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Originally Posted by dubakkur2

i dont disagree - i can see where u r coming from

be it poker, finance or real life - in the return (ev)/risk (var) equation my philosophy is to get the same return with minimal risk - it is the ratio that matters not the numerator or the denominator

high risk does not imply high reward

I dont like to payoff fishes esp during this time
I embrace good variance - I avoid taking bad risks esp with 100bb+ stacks
I play for fun - I dont aspire to become pro - I will never be nor i need the $ from poker
I dont grind huge volumes or hours playing poker or crunching solvers

I get the logic, I just think your read is wrong here so your ratio is also wrong. This feels very plus EV as well as being risky.

Lets imagine you knew your win % in advance. What would it have to be to call a 100bb shove?