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02-17-2009 , 02:53 PM

#1176

pele02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drzapper

Hi,

Thanx for the advice, i should work on my blinds play.

This is my graph without the SB and BB

And in te blinds..

Read post #489 ITT

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02-17-2009 , 03:57 PM

#1177

Rusty Nails

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Originally Posted by Pyro12345

Ok no math necessary

Ive seen like a few 50k+ samples and I read this thread for a while before condemning it as premature ramblings.

I actually agree with quite a bit of what you say. Definitely attributing anything to your WR with a 10k sample is ridiculous. But there are newer players who are playing a weak style. Their base stats will have converged somewhat and will display huge leaks in their play. These are the players that benefit from a review of their stats.

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02-17-2009 , 05:13 PM

#1178

Rusty Nails

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Originally Posted by Kyanto

I changed my play lately and those r the stats of my last 40'000 hands.
I feel not satisfied with my PTBB/100 Rate yet.

Try not to sweat your WR too much, especially after only 40 hands. If it's positive that's good.

So where do I leak the most?

Well, you've lost alot in the BB but your SB is good. So it's likely that you just hit a bad hand or two in that spot (that's why you don't sweat your WR after 40k hands). Your river agg. is a little low. You may be passing up on spots on the river. This can really affect your WR b/c the pot is at it's biggest and missing a bet or two there in a common situation will hurt.

Should won money without showdown be positive or is break-even ok?

W$SD is a function of your style. There are lots of very strong players who have a declining red line.

thanks.

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02-17-2009 , 10:07 PM

#1179

dbthdo

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 492

Overall

Blinds

w/o Blinds

Overall

Position

98% NL25
leaks?

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02-17-2009 , 11:50 PM

#1180

Drzapper

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Thanx pele02, helpfull post

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02-18-2009 , 01:12 AM

#1181

Rusty Nails

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Originally Posted by dbthdo

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98% NL25
leaks?

Your stats look fine except your blind play. You're bleeding too much money there. Go to the infamous post #489 ITT and review what Mpeth wrote.

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02-18-2009 , 02:00 PM

#1182

DiggertheDog

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In PT3 how do you get your red line without the blinds?
TY

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02-18-2009 , 03:55 PM

#1183

pele02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DiggertheDog

In PT3 how do you get your red line without the blinds?
TY

Under filters set Position of the button to "Less than or equal to 7"

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02-18-2009 , 10:18 PM

#1184

springsteen87

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I'm fairly confident that I'm playing some good poker, I know I've got a few leaks and would like to know the significance of having such a dominant red line to blue line ratio.

I feel I may give up on marginal hands too soon, I fairly often shut down on the turn if someone calls my flop c-bet on a dry board (if i have marginal-weak hand)

I'm skeptical about often going to SD with TPTK or similar holdings.

Any other stats that would help with deciding why my red line is so dominant (and if that's even a bad thing)

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02-18-2009 , 10:55 PM

#1185

Rusty Nails

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Originally Posted by springsteen87

Red line is related to the style you play. If you win alot of pots before showdown, you have a good redline. If you don't invest alot of money w/o going to showdown, you have a good redline. So players with positive redlines tend to make concrete decisions early about their hand. They usually play an aggressive style of poker putting pressure on their opponents to fold. As a result, the hands they take to showdown are weaker than someone who plays a different style. So their blue lines are lower. The only line that matters is the green line. Any changes you make in your game should be to improve your total winnings.

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02-18-2009 , 11:32 PM

#1186

springsteen87

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Originally Posted by Rusty Nails

very very solid advice, it was similar to what I was thinking.

I'm a small winner, and didn't want any radical advice, I'll stick to what I'm doing and make small improvements

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02-19-2009 , 08:27 AM

#1187

DiggertheDog

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Ok So I did that
I run ~12/10/3 4.5ptbb/100 last 40kish - 50NL
without blinds I run 12.5ptbb/100 and my non showdown basically hugs my showdown Does that mean anything to you pele?

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02-19-2009 , 09:57 AM

#1188

pele02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DiggertheDog

Ok So I did that
I run ~12/10/3 4.5ptbb/100 last 40kish - 50NL
without blinds I run 12.5ptbb/100 and my non showdown basically hugs my showdown Does that mean anything to you pele?

I'd say that's pretty normal or even slightly better than normal (if I understand what you mean with "hugs my showdown" correctly

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02-20-2009 , 05:09 AM

#1189

kimos123

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good post i think the players who are losing in show down and winning in non show down should bluff less and try to get more value from their good hands. a normal graph imo should have the line of show down winning higher the non showdown winning

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02-20-2009 , 10:46 AM

#1190

springsteen87

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Originally Posted by kimos123

How do you figure that this would be the case?

Isn't bluffing essential to adding value to your hands when you get them?

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02-20-2009 , 04:56 PM

#1191

Minigun007

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I know its 6max but I couldn't find a thread for that...

Also...I know my SB is a leak, sometimes i fill just because I'm bored.

Thanks...

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02-20-2009 , 07:26 PM

#1192

DerPapst

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 375

Hey guys!

I just restarted playin poker after a few month break,
now i reached 1500$ again and just started to play NL50!

Can u say anything about my stats?
please ignore the ptbbs, im pretty sure to be in a massive upswing ;-)

any comments?

... i just saw how small the picture is in the forum... how can i make it large?

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02-21-2009 , 12:02 AM

#1193

agent_fish

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What kind of 3 bet percentage do you guys have? Mine is around 5%.

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02-21-2009 , 10:09 AM

#1194

Jedi Speed Racer

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Originally Posted by agent_fish

What kind of 3 bet percentage do you guys have? Mine is around 5%.

lol, im running a 9/4/1 @ nl25,i only 3bet AA and KK.im assuming u 3betAK, JJ+.If ur 3betting wider than that im sure its spewy.

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02-21-2009 , 01:13 PM

#1195

Minigun007

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Speed Racer

lol, im running a 9/4/1 @ nl25,i only 3bet AA and KK.im assuming u 3betAK, JJ+.If ur 3betting wider than that im sure its spewy.

How is that spewy? You are much more predictable, and it would be easy to tell what you had, him on the other hand has a higher range of 3 betting, which is actually BETTER.

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02-21-2009 , 02:20 PM

#1196

zocketpocket

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Against button, cuttoff raise, I 3bet from the blinds too much. Well...not too much, I just don't understand why people arn't 4 betting me. But all together 5.4%. Just happy no one knows my screen name on stars.

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02-21-2009 , 04:32 PM

#1197

DamienT

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I was wondering what would be a good Agg%. Anyone can help me please ?

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02-21-2009 , 05:03 PM

#1198

agent_fish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Speed Racer

lol, im running a 9/4/1 @ nl25,i only 3bet AA and KK.im assuming u 3betAK, JJ+.If ur 3betting wider than that im sure its spewy.

Not sure what you mean here. If you're 3 betting that tight a range then you are going to be super easy to read. I 3 bet a wide range in stealing situations. Not as wide in other situations unless I'm semi bluffing. Good to see 5% is fairly standard.

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02-21-2009 , 05:38 PM

#1199

springsteen87

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minigun007: I think the biggest concern for you is positional awareness. You are playing almost the same from every spot on the table.

Ideally you would be playing more hands on the button (aggressively) and less hands in any worse position