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Originally Posted by Nickc011
Greetings,
I recently started playing some cash games, I've been a tournament grinder for the past couple of years and have decided that learning to play full ring cash would make me a much better player in every respect. Anyways, I've started at NL50, to make sure i'm not donating too much to begin with. These are my results after my first 10,000 hands.
I've analyzed them a bit on my own, but i know it would help to have others take a look and see how I am doing. This thread has been invaluable. Really, thanks alot for making it. PT is sort of overwhelming if your not familiar with it, and this has helped alot.
Anyways... the stats aren't great, but it could be worse. Help me out fellas!
Your stats are a little off for playing a TAg cash game, but mostly you look pretty good.
You should tighten up considerably in early position. Run a filter--position is UTG and UTG +1, action preflop is to limp. You will probably see that you are losing money limping in EP. So you need to tone it down or stop altogether. The hands you are currently limping you should either raise or fold, depending on whether the table is passive or aggressive.
I wouldn't mind seeing you playing about 8% (although 6% is somewhat more usual) of your hands from EP, but you should be bringing them in for a raise and using initiative to win some, since you are oop.
The other thing is you are cold calling a lot. your average ccpf is 12; something around 4-7 is more normal for the solid FR TAgs. Like your vpip, your ccpf should increase as you move toward the button, and your average should wind up somewhere in the range I indicated.
The net effect of limping too much and cold calling too much is that your vpip and pfr are out of proportion. You will know you are doing things right-ish when your pfr is 2/3 of your vpip.
Right now your winrate is low-ish because you are playing about half your pots out of position and without the initiative that inheres in being the preflop raiser.
To fix these leaks, really all you need to do is tighten up in EP and loosen up considerably in LP. Your vpip otb of 20% is good, but a bit too low. You should be raising, first in otb, maybe 30-35% of the time, at least. The best uFR grinders are telling me that they are profitably stealing 40% of the time. Stealing 30-35% of the time usually yields a vpip of about 25-27%
Your CO vpip should be higher and closer to your button vpip. You should be stealing from the CO as often as you steal from the button. Only when you have an unusually solid and aggressive player to your immediate left should you tone down the stealing in the CO, and even then you should only tighten up a bit, not stop.
Treat the hijack as a stealing position, too, but you will have to tone it down far more often, as you will often have a good player behind you that will play back at you.
You are leaking a little bit from the small blind. It looks like you are too loose passive from the SB. You should rarely just complete the SB. If it is folded to you, you should raise >50% of the time. If there is one limper ahead of you, you can raise a smaller, but still very wide range. You should only complete with decent implied odds hands when there are multiple limpers ahead of you.
Just to give you some perspective in small blind aggression: my steal success rate from the CO is 51%, it is 57% from the button, and it is 63% from the small blind (playing $50 and $100). As you have fewer players to get through your steal success goes up--so in the SB you should be stealing with basically everything. When it is not a steal situation, raising the pot gives you the initiative, which is critical to compensate for the fact that you will be out of position, and will increase the credibility of your c-bet over that of a donk bet out of the sb in a limped pot (which players tend to laugh at and call extremely lightly).
Your big blind loss rate is marginal--right on the border of leak/ok. try to trim it down some. The easiest way for you to do this would be to tighten up just a bit--fold a bit more to steal attempts--and make sure you are 3 betting with a decent number of hands.
(I don't want to get into the optimal 3 bet % argument here, but you should make sure you are 3 betting
at least 2.5% in the BB with a mix of your strongest hands and some hands that are not really good enough to call a PFR and defend your blind with. Higher than 2.5% is almost certainly better, assuming you are a skilled post flop player--if you think you are not, then it is probably best to just tighten up preflop. Just remember when 3 betting light to pick your spots, hands and villains carefully.)
As an interim step in improving your loss rates in the blinds, aim for these loss rates over the next 10,000 hands:
BB: -0.20ptbb/hand
SB: -0.12ptbb/hand
I hope that you notice that this is only a slight reduction in your loss rates, which, in turn, means that you should modify your blind play only slightly. As you get more comfortable with ramped up aggression in the blinds, slowly open up with an eye toward further reductions in losses. The very best micro-grinders come very close to break even in the SB (between 0.00ptbb/hand and -0.07ptbb/hand is the range those best players are in) and are somewhere around -0.10 or -0.12ptbb/hand in the BB. So these figures are your ultimate goals, but if you are getting even close to them it is probably past time for you to move up.
The only other thing I saw is that your W$WSF is too low. In your case, this is almost certainly a function of playing too many pots out of position and without the initiative. I suspect your W$WSF% will climb toward 40% as you plug the leaks I have mentioned here--if it doesn't post again after the next 10,000 hands or so.
Pretty good stats, all in all. Good luck.