Hey aner0,

Regarding your comment on my flop folds, am I folding too much at 52%?

What would you think a more reasonable number is?

Do you see other leaks apart from your flop fold and donking advice?

Thanks

yup 52% is awful should be like 40%
honestly and not to offend you your strategy is a bag of leaks, but on the one hand some of those tend to work well in the micros and others are understandable since it takes time to refine them.

trying to fix each leak individually would be an inefficient way of addressing it imo, it'd be better to build a more solid understanding of the game and that would end up making you play better on every spot. It's important though to not get too lost in theory, and instead try to keep some of the ideas that are not so theoretically sound but work in practice.

Hello! I was mostly playing live 1/2 for 2 years and crushing. I decided to take a break from live and start to learn some GTO at the online microstakes. This is a small ~15k hand sample from 10nl.

I understand it's a small size, but I am hoping that someone more knowledgeable will be able to at least see (any) massive leaks that are clearly apparent even with 15k hands.
I'm new to this forum, and I really appreciate everything so far. Thanks! (EDIT: Apologies for the double image...I cant' seem to figure out how to size the DriveHud stats window to show all positions).

too nitty all around. C-bet should be 60%+, steal from button should be like 45%, 3-bet should be at least ~9%, and WWSF is a bit low

Thanks for the reply. I hear I should work on doubling my BTN open. As far as c-bet %, if I wanted to bump this up a bit, I assume a good place to start is IP, as opposed to OOP.

Any advise on working on WWSF. Perhaps I am x/folding flop to much. Or x/b turns and fold to river leads. I think I do these pretty often.

Yup just all around very nitty.
We can't really see what you're up to specifically to make you so passive postflop but you're probably just overfolding most lines on most streets and not stealing enough pots

And yeah preflop just try to stick to the charts a bit more i guess until you get a feel for the baseline

My advice is similar to previous ones: You're probably a bag of leaks and it's going to be very innefficient to try to fix each leak individually. Your best chance is to improve your understanding of strategy and the game which will fix or improve a lot of them at the same time

Can variance produce big diffrences in aggression factor, previous month i had around 2.4 in ~45k hands (wr 3.88bb/100) and this month on similar sample ~2.8 (wr 8.8bb) or it's just change in game style i may not even be aware?

I apologize for the image quality. My ctrl button is acting up.

Is there anything we can determine regarding my aggression?

I am just now starting to grasp the importance of this stat, and I think looking at my own will be a good way to plug some really basic leaks (Not c-betting enough, etc).

I have all those other stats, but I'm just trying to isolate this stat, hear from feedback, and the compare the my other stats to said feedback.

Thank you all.

most keyboards have two control buttons and windows itself has a screenshot shortcut of "shift+windows+s" which doesn't need the control button

I don't use these stats a lot, but if im not mistaken these are extremely passive.

Quick guide on Stat review:

I see a bunch of understandably shitty posts asking for feedback on their stats. Here's how I would do it for a quick review.

General stats: VPIP, PFR, 3B, WWSF, W$SD

Preflop stats: BB fold to BTN and SB steals, BB 3bet vs BTN and SB steals. Positional folds to 3B and positional 4B.

Flop stats: Fold to CB, Raise CB. CBet, Fold to flop raise.

Turn stats: Probe. Fold to delayed CB. Fold to Turn barrel, turn barrel, fold to probe.

River stats: Bet river, fold river. WSDWBR (Won at Showdown When Bet River)

~17k hands of 10nl 6max on BetOnline
I started playing live 1/2 about 3 years ago. After recently transitioning to micro stakes online, I think I have brought some of my "players don't bluff, fold to aggression and bet big for value" over to the 10nl streets, and as a result I think I am playing too tight and passive.

Below are my stats that have been chosen from advice of another user here. Please let me know if I need to break down any of these general stats further.

Any feedback will be very helpful

Amazing post

Your general idea for how to play is right "players don't bluff, fold to aggression and bet big for value" But let's go point by point.
1. REGS don't bluff much on big pots on the river. They do bluff earlier streets or when the pot is small and up for grabs.
2. Overfold to aggression ON THE RIVER. Getting sticky versus nits works well because you can call up to the river. They will not bluff you a lot on river, allowing you to realise your showdown value easily. Additionally, getting sticky on earlier streets will allow you to steal more pots later on with bluffs.
3. Bet big for value: I'm afraid your stats show that you're neither betting big enough nor thin enough for value (Extremely low river bet% and too high Won at Showdown)

Let's quickly get through your stats
General: Extremely tight preflop, try to defend your big blind more actively aswell as steal other peoples blinds. 3bet wider specially when IP, you will end up making a lot of money from other passive players.
WWSF is extremely low which just points towards an overall lack of aggression.

Preflop: You're way overfolding your Big blind, you need to start calling and 3betting more. Fighting for the blinds is the most important part of poker!! Weirdly, you are playing probably too loose versus 3bets and 4bets, this is a spot where you should rather overfold.

Postflop: Your main issue is that you're playing way too weak versus first bets. When people cbet or bet vs your first check, it doesn't necessarily represent any kind of significant strength, you need to take a stand more often and fight for your share of the pot.
You're not ever bluffing river and you're not valuebetting thin or big enough. Get out there and go for MAX VALUE. Additionally, a lot of pots are up for grabs when people lose interest in them, start stealing those pots!

Thanks for your time and in depth reply. Although there’s much to work on, I’m relieved to hear that at least my stats are telling a consistent story.

It sounds like a general increase in overall aggression will fare well for me. Hopefully some better looking numbers coming in another 20k hands!

what would be a god value for WWSF?

anyone here have any issues before where your hhs are imported multiple times and with sometimes different dates but the databases aren't aware of it and treat it as 4 separate hands?

it's hard to see on the database itself but if you export to csv it's a lot easier to see



removing the duplicates still tells a similiar overall win/loss rate but with 1/3 the hands and slightly different overal win/loss totals

these aren't my hand histories, so i can't rule out manipulation but... if someone were to fake hhs i don't think it makes any sense to do it like this which is so easily noticed in a review as they are often side by side and stands out pretty clearly

1. What database?
2. What site?
3. Were the hands converted or "catched"?
4. If (3.) = true, then what software was used for it?

1) hh export from pt4, when loaded in a variety of of databases from pt4 to h2n it reads as 16k unique hands no duplicates but if you review the hh you'll see a lot of duplicates

there are chunks that are normal like this



but then other blocks like this



as seen from excel above, the identical hands are often repeated at different intervals so the mirrored hands here are also found at another session as well

but importantly, none of the databases recognize these as duplicates because the hand number is different

these are all mirrored but the hand numbers are different so they are viewed as unique hands, it's the same as the ones shown above





2) pokerstars

3) caught live while playing

4) pt4

so the total win/loss are supposedly accurate despite that the hhs aren't

if i use pt4 to export to csv and then in excel create a new column combining all actions like flops/holdings/won/loss/villain/flops/etc via =A2&B2&C2etcetc and then using that column to remove duplicates it shrinks the database from 16k hands to 5k so a ton of the hands ae identical



this is a stake and we've just started, he's unclear how this happened himself, if i isolate to the 5k genuinely unique hands then it's fairly similar results but not quite as many losses

while i'm definitely a bit concerned over this, he has good references from prior stables and we're talking about moving up after building some rapport at this lower level so the incentive to scam isn't high, nor would it make sense at this juncture, nor would it make sense to put in this much work manipulating a database that he knows would be reviewed where i'd so easily see it when he could instead just ghost as is standard

so i don't think he's scamming as it'd be a really odd time and way to go about it, but at the same time feel really weird about the situation

No clue.

should at least be in the 40s.

But filter out multi-way pots, since you're obviously going to win those much less often

48+

Hi guys. Just returned to poker after a long hiatus, maybe 2.5 years. I've played 32,000 hands at 25NL rush and cash on GG over the last month, feeling my way back into things. I've downloaded all the hands (as I know their software doesn't account for rake) and have imported them into PT4. Currently I'm losing over that sample, my graph looks like this:



So could be much worse but also could be much better and I think the mistakes are pretty obvious tbh. I've been running reasonably well too, so the reality is I'm probably fortunate to not have lost a bit more haha . However I thought I would post my stats and see if anything stands out to you all (if anything is missing let me know and I can add it):






FYI - I have LeakBuster 2 and have run that, it came back with a "B" score and no critical leaks but some important ones to work on. So looking at those in my database at the moment too . It currently thinks the following (although need a much bigger sample size really):

-Fold to 3b is outrageously high, watch out specially when opening late position. Don't swing the other way because people 3b too tight at lower stakes.
-4b extremely low
Basically fix your preflop by looking at some solver generated ranges

-For postflop, you're playing way too weak (Overfolding a lot to the slightest of aggression) and betting way too often probably way too linear. You are overestimating the benefits of protection and betting very thin for value instead of checking to induce. Instead, get more aggro with bluffs

The fold to 3bet stat he posted is not the correct one. You'd want "fold to 3bet after raising" IDK what it's specifically called off the top of my head, but it would show up on the ribbon as "2B PF and fold"

Ah, true. Still, the prescription for fixing preflop stays the same