Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread

02-28-2012 , 10:09 AM
what stats on the HUD does the 2 winnings players use on their opponents?
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-28-2012 , 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LastEmperor7
what stats on the HUD does the 2 winnings players use on their opponents?
My hud consists of : vpip, pfr, agf, 3bet, fold to 3bet, steal, flop cbet, turn cbet, limp.

These are the ones I have on screen but I can hover over to find more detailed stats. The ones I have listed are usually enough for me.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-29-2012 , 10:39 AM






Hey guys these are the first nearly 13k hands on 10NL.
Yes I am on a run good...

Can you give me a short analysis? Maybe about some major leaks in here?
Losing too much in the blinds imho...

And my red-line is way different from most graphs in here either...


thanks guys!
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-29-2012 , 11:25 AM
@ smoothmove, I wouldn't be the best person to analyse stats usually unless I saw something out of the ordinary but your's seem pretty damn solid. I wouldn't worry too much about your losses in the blinds as most players do and it doesn't seem to be unusually high or anything. If you think that's bad check out my losses in the BB.

Non showdown winnings looking good, good TAG game all around in my opinion. Maybe someone else might spot a minor leak.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-29-2012 , 12:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulok
@ smoothmove, I wouldn't be the best person to analyse stats usually unless I saw something out of the ordinary but your's seem pretty damn solid. I wouldn't worry too much about your losses in the blinds as most players do and it doesn't seem to be unusually high or anything. If you think that's bad check out my losses in the BB.

Non showdown winnings looking good, good TAG game all around in my opinion. Maybe someone else might spot a minor leak.
Thanks paulok for your feedback.

I will be soon rolled for 25NL (including rakeback winnings) but I think that I am on an upswing atm. and my samplesize is still very small on 10NL to really estimate the quality of my game.

So I don't really know if moving up then is the right decision for me.

But from what I've seen on 10NL I think that I am able to beat it.

So my question is: How is 25NL different from 10NL?
10NL is basically for me: take fish to valuetown and exploit nits with bluffs in the right spots and be careful with regulars. Will this still work on 25NL?

I think I just should try it out when my bankroll is big enough...
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-29-2012 , 01:26 PM
@smoothmove - I'm very new to poker, so take this with a grain of salt, but a flop cbet % of over 90% seems awfully high, and with a turn cbet % of 55% that would strike me as too big a gap between them, suggesting too many flop cbets and too many "one and dones".

But seriously, I'm a total noob to all this, so I wouldn't make much of this unless more experienced players agree! :P

BTW, if I'm off base, that would be great to learn too, so somebody please chime in here!
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-29-2012 , 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DASNerdly
@smoothmove - I'm very new to poker, so take this with a grain of salt, but a flop cbet % of over 90% seems awfully high, and with a turn cbet % of 55% that would strike me as too big a gap between them, suggesting too many flop cbets and too many "one and dones".

But seriously, I'm a total noob to all this, so I wouldn't make much of this unless more experienced players agree! :P

BTW, if I'm off base, that would be great to learn too, so somebody please chime in here!
You could be right here as far as flop cbet goes but is the gap really that big between this and turn cbet? I dunno, very aggressive image seems to be working though hence non showdown winnings. As I said before I'm not the best at analysing stats and I actually missed that the first time I looked but some opponents just can't defend to constant aggression from TAG's and when they finally do they probably have a hand and hero seems disciplined.

Maybe someone with more experience would be able to comment on this. Also a bigger sample size will show if this becomes a major leak.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-29-2012 , 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DASNerdly
@smoothmove - I'm very new to poker, so take this with a grain of salt, but a flop cbet % of over 90% seems awfully high, and with a turn cbet % of 55% that would strike me as too big a gap between them, suggesting too many flop cbets and too many "one and dones".

But seriously, I'm a total noob to all this, so I wouldn't make much of this unless more experienced players agree! :P

BTW, if I'm off base, that would be great to learn too, so somebody please chime in here!
Hey!

Yeah it really sounds high. Even to myself when I think about it. And I am also new to the Cashgamegrindaments .
But that's why I am posting here! To learn something! I really hope some of the "gurus" here can comment on this


I try to explain myself for this:

1.) Im playing at 13/10, my gap between VPIP and PFR is small. I barely enter a pot without raising pre flop. In fact small pocket pairs and suited connector are like the only hands I usually play, without raising them (esspecially out of position) pre flop. And since I play very tight, villian must respect my bettings and raising...

2.) Most of the time I have position.

On 10NL the most villians I face are pretty tight and nitty. They tend to fold against me pretty fast. They can't really handle aggression out of position.
So c-betting seems very effective.

The only scenario I don't C-Bet is when I am against a totally fish-loose-passive-callingstation or in a multiway pot without a strong hand.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
02-29-2012 , 11:41 PM
After about 70k hands at NL5 I'm ready to move up to NL10 with a $500 bankroll. I'm beating NL5 for 4.6 ptbb/100 hands.

Just wondering if somebody could quickly review some of my stats and see if they spot any leaks.







Also, what adjustments (if any) will I have to make for NL10. Can I expect to maintain the same win rate at NL10?
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-02-2012 , 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothmove






Hey guys these are the first nearly 13k hands on 10NL.
Yes I am on a run good...

Can you give me a short analysis? Maybe about some major leaks in here?
Losing too much in the blinds imho...

And my red-line is way different from most graphs in here either...


thanks guys!

/bump
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-02-2012 , 06:33 PM
I display AF and AFq for each street on my hud but I find that I don't ever look at it because there are too many factors that have to be considered/calculated to make it useful in a time effective way(I 20 table).

I think the two above stats need to be considered together firstly, and then the pf stats have to be considered to get a real sense of what the AF and AFq stats mean.

Does anyone agree with this?

I've never used wtsh or w$sd so I'm not sure what other stats I should be looking at for post flop other than cbet and donk.

What are your favorite post flop stats other than cbet?

thanks
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-03-2012 , 05:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothmove
/bump
Your flop cbet frequency is very high, in particular in late position. However it looks like your opponents let you get away with it. Everything else looks fine.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-03-2012 , 06:48 AM
Hi, got some stats here. I've started to go bit more aggressive. Hope someone could let me know on their thoughts about my stats. Thanks a bunch in advance!

P.S - Sorry for the crap screenshots











Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-03-2012 , 10:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProVlnc
my numbers on nl10 fr at pokerstars



stats



position



a very huge leak on blinds?

help me plx
I feel a little sad by not to get a good winrate on nl10
BUMP
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-04-2012 , 08:09 AM
I give this a try Im not very good at this.

You have pretty solid stats. All I can see is your BTN win-rate is very poor which is dragging down your overall win-rate. Look for more opportunity to flat hands ip and play some post-flop. I think we can easily achieve a win-rate of 40bb/100 there.
Your blinds loss-rate is standard.

Last edited by sexdotcom; 03-04-2012 at 08:14 AM.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-04-2012 , 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sexdotcom
...BTN win-rate is very poor... I think we can easily achieve a win-rate of 40bb/100 there.


That would be nice. There must be a bunch of glaringly bad stats here.

Thanks for any comments.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-05-2012 , 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProVlnc
BUMP
your blind win rates are solid, but there is a huge discrepency between your flop and turn cbets.

[edit] actually, I think everyone who posted/bumped stats on this page has way too high flop cbet, and If posted have way too low turn cbet.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gz36
snip

except for you, just your turn cbet is too low, and REALLY low at that.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 04:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly2702
except for you, just your turn cbet is too low, and REALLY low at that.
Should have added that turn c-bet is very fresh update on poker copilot that records the stats. Therefore it shows of a sample for not more than 1k hands. Despite that, what would be a good c-bet %?
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 05:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gz36
Should have added that turn c-bet is very fresh update on poker copilot that records the stats. Therefore it shows of a sample for not more than 1k hands.
Are you sure about that? Usually when a new statistic is added it is applied to all hands in the database.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 05:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cangurino
Are you sure about that? Usually when a new statistic is added it is applied to all hands in the database.
Yup! Hopefully this will be fixed in an update soon. . .
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gz36
Should have added that turn c-bet is very fresh update on poker copilot that records the stats. Therefore it shows of a sample for not more than 1k hands. Despite that, what would be a good c-bet %?
around 10% less than your flop cbet, but it isnt an exact science.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly2702
around 10% less than your flop cbet, but it isnt an exact science.
Cheers!
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 12:48 PM
thx to all for the comments

I am working on my turn cbet, I think
flop 70%
turn 50-55%
would be nice

ty again
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly2702
around 10% less than your flop cbet, but it isnt an exact science.
I lost count of how many people I asked for the reasoning behind this. I've never received an answer.

If you say, cbet turn at least x% I'd understand it. But why should it be directly correlated to cbet flop? It makes no sense, mathematically.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote
03-06-2012 , 09:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cangurino
I lost count of how many people I asked for the reasoning behind this. I've never received an answer.

If you say, cbet turn at least x% I'd understand it. But why should it be directly correlated to cbet flop? It makes no sense, mathematically.
what I've heard, it is because with a big gap between cbet flop and turn lot of player will flat you to steal the pot on turn.
also 2bareeling more often you`ll steal the pot from players that only call your cbet flop for steal the pot on turn.
Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread Quote

      
m