Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Start to a new series. Start to a new series.

04-07-2021 , 03:41 PM
I hope this is the first post of many to come. Lately I have been putting a decent amount of volume on ACR 10nl Blitz. I plan to post one interesting hand from my ordeals everyday.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 165.4 BB
Hero (SB): 139.1 BB
BB: 103.5 BB
UTG: 120.5 BB
MP: 368.9 BB
CO: 146 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 8

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 5 3 6
Hero checks, MP bets 4.7 BB, BTN calls 4.7 BB, Hero raises to 27.3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 162.9 BB and is all-in, Hero ???
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 03:49 PM
For me easy call,you afraid flush higher?
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moneypanda
For me easy call,you afraid flush higher?
Easy call for me as well. I will make this call 11/10. I am just wondering what other people might do in this spot.

I would also like to discuss what does the BTN's range look like here.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:10 PM
Yeah always getting in.

I imagine that Btn has a lot of AsX and sets here. Sometimes they will have you crushed.

Dont like pre if BB is competent.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:11 PM
Your raise is pure spew

Flop is player dependant but I could see a fold here being justified, if you don't see him pushing sets (which most people don't) then it's probably a fold

Asx is not really much of a thing here since AQo usually 3bets pre and is unlikely to play post like this, so it all comes down to sets.

It's not really an important spot though since you should never end up on that line with a weak flush

Last edited by aner0; 04-07-2021 at 04:18 PM.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by threatD
Yeah always getting in.

I imagine that Btn has a lot of AsX and sets here. Sometimes they will have you crushed.

Dont like pre if BB is competent.
Yes, I agree preflop this play is very prone to a squeeze from BB. In this spot the BB was an unknown guy so I wasn't too afraid of a squeeze.

But will the player pool be shoving AsJh type of hands on this board at a high frequency facing this action?
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:19 PM
Oh just realised were 140bb deep.

Ok this becomes way closer to a fold.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:21 PM
ran a sim, though some hands are not raises, had to discount mp.

Ranges for BU (if they are playing gto) SHOULD be: KsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As4s, AsQd, AsQh, AsQc

Other spade combos would be a call, along with sets.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureInsights
ran a sim, though some hands are not raises, had to discount mp.

Ranges for BU (if they are playing gto) SHOULD be: KsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As4s, AsQd, AsQh, AsQc
a heads up sim is irrelevant here
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aner0
Your raise is pure spew

Flop is player dependant but I could see a fold here being justified, if you don't see him pushing sets (which most people don't) then it's probably a fold

Asx is not really much of a thing here since AQo usually 3bets pre and is unlikely to play post like this, so it all comes down to sets.

It's not really an important spot though since you should never end up on that line with a weak flush
Should I have a check raise range on this board and if so what should it look like?

I agree AQo 3bets and is not playing this way on the flop. I believe a lot of players would push their sets in this spot, at least I would have. I put him on a range of 33, 55, 66 (total of 18 combos) and some higher flushes(hands like J9ss, JTss, KJss, KQss, A4ss, A2ss etc). Against such a range I think a call is justified with the redraw to a straight flush.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aner0
a heads up sim is irrelevant here
I was going from the first post, had not read the responses. He asked for range on BU to go all in.

This is actually a multi way pot, and AQo is not always a squeeze. I used ranges from 3 way action.

Edit to add: 87s is a fold multi way pre, in my ranges, call maybe from BB.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureInsights
ran a sim, though some hands are not raises, had to discount mp.

Ranges for BU (if they are playing gto) SHOULD be: KsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As4s, AsQd, AsQh, AsQc

Other spade combos would be a call, along with sets.
How often do you have KQs on the BTN. I think that is a high frequency 3b after a HJ open if playing GTO.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureInsights
I was going from the first post, had not read the responses. He asked for range on BU to go all in.

This is actually a multi way pot, and AQo is not always a squeeze. I used ranges from 3 way action.
Could you post screenshots of the sim, I am very interested in what the ranges look like for BTN and what is the correct defense against shove from SB.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sm4r7guy
Should I have a check raise range on this board and if so what should it look like?

I agree AQo 3bets and is not playing this way on the flop. I believe a lot of players would push their sets in this spot, at least I would have. I put him on a range of 33, 55, 66 (total of 18 combos) and some higher flushes(hands like J9ss, JTss, KJss, KQss, A4ss, A2ss etc). Against such a range I think a call is justified with the redraw to a straight flush.
You could raise here with sets which can call a push more easily than this, with nut flushes and with Asx

the 2 outter adds some equity but if he only pushes nut flushes it's still not enough, I think saying villain pushes every set every time is wishful thinking but if you have a read like that, then you can probably call
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aner0
You could raise here with sets which can call a push more easily than this, with nut flushes and with Asx

the 2 outter adds some equity but if he only pushes nut flushes it's still not enough, I think saying villain pushes every set every time is wishful thinking but if you have a read like that, then you can probably call
Ok this will make the next hand I share very interesting as well. Be on a lookout for that tomorrow.

It was very interesting to note that this is way closer to a fold than I thought at the time.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sm4r7guy
How often do you have KQs on the BTN. I think that is a high frequency 3b after a HJ open if playing GTO.
In my ranges, it is low frequency 3bet, KJs much higher (though I don't usually do).

When combining, creating our ranges in position to call, 3bet rfi, we want a balance of equity in our calling and raising ranges. So what you might think should be 3bet is not. In my range, AQo vs HJ is less than 50% 3bet. This may surprise you, but we are mixing our ranges so that both calling and raising have positive ev and equity to match HJ. We need stronger ranges (even if he is fish opening with 24o).
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureInsights
In my ranges, it is low frequency 3bet, KJs much higher (though I don't usually do).

When combining, creating our ranges in position to call, 3bet rfi, we want a balance of equity in our calling and raising ranges. So what you might think should be 3bet is not. In my range, AQo vs HJ is less than 50% 3bet. This may surprise you, but we are mixing our ranges so that both calling and raising have positive ev and equity to match HJ. We need stronger ranges (even if he is fish opening with 24o).
So how does one go about creating these ranges?
Start to a new series. Quote
04-07-2021 , 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sm4r7guy
So how does one go about creating these ranges?
I purchased, then input into solvers (I have two).

I also play psuedo GTO, a more simplified strategy. I was incorrect above about KJs, I do 3bet from BU, just haven't had it enough.
Start to a new series. Quote
04-08-2021 , 01:28 PM
If anybody is interested, this is the complete hand history.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 165.4 BB
Hero (SB): 139.1 BB
BB: 103.5 BB
UTG: 120.5 BB
MP: 368.9 BB
CO: 146 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 8

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 5 3 6
Hero checks, MP bets 4.7 BB, BTN calls 4.7 BB, Hero raises to 27.3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 162.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 109.3 BB and is all-in

Turn: (286.4 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (286.4 BB, 2 players) 3
Start to a new series. Quote
04-08-2021 , 02:37 PM
What did villain have?
Start to a new series. Quote
04-09-2021 , 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureInsights
What did villain have?

KQss


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Start to a new series. Quote

      
m