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a standard spot? a standard spot?

10-02-2013 , 11:53 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    CO: $25 (100 bb)
    BTN: $27.80 (111.2 bb)
    SB: $10 (40 bb)
    BB: $15 (60 bb)
    Hero (UTG+2): $18.82 (75.3 bb)
    MP1: $28.09 (112.4 bb)
    MP2: $25 (100 bb)
    MP3: $22.64 (90.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q A
    Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3.35) 2 8 T (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.75, BTN raises to $8, Hero raises to $17.32 and is all-in, BTN calls $9.32

    Turn: ($37.99) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($37.99) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $37.99 pot ($1.71 rake)
    Final Board: 2 8 T 3 Q
    BTN showed T T and won $36.28 ($17.46 net)
    Hero showed Q A and lost (-$18.82 net)



    My thoughts are as follow: sure, we have 2 overcards and a flush draw, LET'S GET IT !!! wooo...not He did 3bet my utg raise so his range [ if we consider him a little loose is TT+ AQ+ and let's say some bluffs ] now on that board he is never folding any pair he called pre with. He must fold all AK he is Cbetting [ we have the nuts draw ] and all bluffs he also bets [ i think he has to ]. So he has 12 pair combo x 5 + 16 AKs [ not discounting the T on the flop and me having A and Q which makes AA QQ less likely because we didn't add the bluffs ] but the idea is that he has 60 combos that are continuing/stacking off and about 20 combos that fold so roughly 3 out of 4 times he calls/get re-raises getting in awful.

    Now when he 4bet so small he is NEVER light. That isn't AA, AA makes it a lot bigger with no draw, KK too, is almost ALWAYS in my opinion TT. So call/fold turn seems to be the best way to play it.

    Am I wrong ? What do you guys think?
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    10-02-2013 , 12:21 PM
    Got any stats?

    Pre would depend on stacks, but most probably folding as he is 3betting our EP range, which is usually very strong.

    Postflop is standard I think, he could be doing this AA/KK, maybe QQ. If we are up against KK, we got decent equity, if he has AA that only leaves us with hitting our draw, but still getting it in.
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    10-02-2013 , 12:24 PM
    Check/call flop and try and get there.
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    10-03-2013 , 12:33 PM
    If you're going to stack off on the flop, I think lead/3bet is better than check/raise.

    With the draw, YOU want to be the one making the committing raise, not making the shove that always gets called.
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