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01-31-2011 , 02:25 PM

owlman

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never been in this spot before, is this a standard call and make notes or just fold and wait for a better spot.
villain was 29/11 with 6% 3 bet over 66 hands. hadnt seen him do anything like this before the hand. thanks in advance for any advice
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

SB: $11.36
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.69
UTG+1: $10.00
UTG+2: $11.42
MP1: $16.13
MP2: $3.85
Hero (CO): $11.96
BTN: $8.92

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Qd Qc
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN raises to $8.92, 2 folds, Hero ?????

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01-31-2011 , 02:37 PM

OldRod_KS

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He's a shortstacker, fairly loose stats... I think I'd call this.

Besides, if he has AA or KK, you will probably hit a Q on the board and crack them - at least that's how it goes when I have AA/KK

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01-31-2011 , 02:43 PM

KurtSF

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I'd say its a standard fold. But given the small sample on villain and his general looseness I probably call it anyway. Then later kick my my ass for leveling myself.

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01-31-2011 , 02:44 PM

stranglylucid

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Yes.

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01-31-2011 , 02:45 PM

stranglylucid

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Originally Posted by KurtSF

I'd say its a standard fold. But given the small sample on villain and his general looseness I probably call it anyway. Then later kick my my ass for leveling myself.

Your folding QQ CO vs. BTN against a fish with loose stats who has already 3 bet at least once in 66 hands for less than 100BB?

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01-31-2011 , 02:47 PM

THE M SHOW

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i call vs this player. expect to see AK or medium pocket pair a lot of the time.

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01-31-2011 , 02:47 PM

OldRod_KS

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Originally Posted by KurtSF

I'd say its a standard fold. But given the small sample on villain and his general looseness I probably call it anyway. Then later kick my my ass for leveling myself.

Against someone tighter, I'd agree with you... and a bigger sample size would help too, but I still think I'm calling here.

And yeah, I might kick myself later

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01-31-2011 , 02:52 PM

KurtSF

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Originally Posted by stranglylucid

Your folding QQ CO vs. BTN against a fish with loose stats who has already 3 bet at least once in 66 hands for less than 100BB?

its 11bb less than 100bb, not exactly ss material.

And yes, against an overbet-shove, the first time it happens my inclination is to fold QQ.

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01-31-2011 , 02:53 PM

stranglylucid

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01-31-2011 , 05:02 PM

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Byan_Railey

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In my RUSH game this would be my process.

1.) Player note: tag purple which means I have seen him overshove
2.) Click sit-out next hand
3.) Fold
4.) hope someone snaps it off so that I can make a better player note
5.) On to next hand hoping I see another overshove in the next 5 mins so I can call it semi light.

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01-31-2011 , 05:11 PM

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kgr00

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I'm calling this against a villain with those stats unless I've seen him do this before with monsters.

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01-31-2011 , 05:11 PM

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Messenjupp

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Originally Posted by OldRod_KS

He's a shortstacker

playing around 90bb is a shortstacker in your book?

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01-31-2011 , 05:32 PM

#13

Thief

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If you dont have notes, FOLD

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01-31-2011 , 05:33 PM

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mkost

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I agree with Kurt that my gut is to fold. I just do not see many people doing this for almost 90bb with worst than AK/KK+. I think back to the COTW on KK and one of the other "folding KK pre" threads where people were running stats of KK ai pre and vs stacks of over 80bb they were losing. Here we do not even have KK, we have QQ.

That being said, I probably make this a spite call and expect to see K9o or 44 (obv the flop comes KK4).

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01-31-2011 , 05:34 PM

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mkost

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Originally Posted by Thief

If you dont have notes, FOLD

Great 1st post. Seriously. Welcome to the forum.

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01-31-2011 , 05:55 PM

#16

owlman

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thanks for the help all, makes me feel happier about my call

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