Villain is about 25/20 and good Tag reg. He does bother me a bit ip but doesnt get to out of line. When he raises this flop, I really think hes on draw since there are so many out there. Having a 6 also leaves only 1 combo of 66. I dont think he would flat JJ-AA on this board and if he did I still have some equity with the ace and bdfd. calling flop raise is also really disgusting cause we will be outta position and all turn cards pretty much suck for me. Anyway, terrible shove?

Full Tilt, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (UTG): $430.70
MP: $517.50
CO: $404
BTN: $444
SB: $473.50
BB: $400

Pre-Flop: 6 A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, BTN calls $12, 2 folds

Flop: ($30) 4 6 8 (2 Players)
Hero bets $20, BTN raises to $72, Hero raises to $418.70 and is All-In

It's not great, as even something KQss is dead-on 50%, and things like T9ss are slightly ahead. There's no shame in folding here.

You're either crushed or marginally ahead which means you have to be up aginst a draw an abnormal amount of the time to make a shove profitable. I fold.

+1.

If you were to take an aggressive line to win this hand, then I think i'd prefer you call, hope for a on the turn (or no ), then shove (not a fan of that, but I think it is better than a flop shove).

I don't like the fact that you are $32 vested in this hand and then shove all-in $418 with mid pair on a wet board??? I think this is one of those instances where you give villian credit for outplaying you and just fold and pick a better spot to shove.

I just don't see villian here folding top pair or something like 77 - TT which incidentally, 77 - TT would raise your cbet right?

Sure, villian may raise with flush draw since he's IP, but overall, taking into account everything, this is just one of those cases where I think you give credit to villian for outplaying you, and just fold and pick a better spot.

This is a cash game, not a tourney. You have all the time in the world.

i think i like this.

let me try to refine what you are saying. Sometimes we need to let villians outplay us for the sole instance of not letting ourselves spew?

fold a6 UTG

and no i dont really care that its soooooted

and no i dont really care that its 6max

He needs to have pure stone cold bluff here a high % of time to make this good.

yeah i agree with everyone else i fold Ah 6h here pre. i also fold to the raise on the flop there is no point shipping your whole stack on a hunch that your villian is on a draw, or getting fishy. yes it is hard for villian to call a all in 4 bet here but there is a big chance u will need runner runner to improve. def. spew imo

terrible

calling much better than shove

That's not right.

two thumbs down

Terrible move.

Sucks, especially because you're UTG.

what are you guys playing UTG if you are folding A6s?

Definitely spew.

I open A6s utg depending on table dynamics : fish in blinds, no tough players button by instance, so np with preflop play. On the flop there are combo draw, sets and overpair slowplayed who crush you and won't fold. Overpairs are tough to play there but middle pair + back doors is an easy fold.

Stove vs a reasonable range. Now stove AA. Now stove AsAx. Numbers.

Really dont like shoving this flop i think fold>calling>shoving ur never really that far aheas here

oh hell yeah

every once in a while you'll get real lucky and be like just under 50% to win the pot.

I <3 when button says screw it and calls with 77.

Given the price hero is laying, there's probably flush draws that raise then begrudgingly fold to this shove. In which case, you force villain to make a big FTOP mistake, as he would call were he to know that he had ~50% equity. I'm not sure that's enough justification to warrant this move, but it is an argument for it.

But how awesome is it when villain folds his 77 or 87?

Hero is 55% against AsXs. If villain is calling AsXs and folding, say, QsJs, that works in our favor.

unless villain has a redic high raise cbet, this flop is an easy fold. you beat nothing. flip at best.

meaning you think he can have JJ-AA?.. makes the shove even worse.
terrible shove yes.

why are you cbetting against a good reg here?

this