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09-16-2011 , 12:03 AM

0equity

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,732

1. Can I ever fold river here? Had villain running at 40/30/2.0 over 11 hands

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MP2: $4.82 (120.5 bb)
CO: $2.44 (61 bb)
: $4.31 (107.7 bb)
BTN: $3.20 (80 bb)
Hero (BB): $4.19 (104.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

MP2 raises to $0.12, CO calls $0.12, folds, Hero calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.36) 6

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $0.08, Hero raises to $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, CO calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.96) 9

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.70, MP2 calls $0.70, CO calls $0.70

River: ($3.06) 7

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.01, MP2 raises to $3.80 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero calls $2.16 and is all-in

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2. Fold preflop? What's my plan if I call this OOP?

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BB: $4.79 (119.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $4.06 (101.5 bb)
CO: $6.74 (168.5 bb)
BTN: $3.94 (98.5 bb)
SB: $5.74 (143.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T

Hero raises to $0.12, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.36, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.24

Flop: ($0.78) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.52, Hero calls $0.52

Turn: ($1.82) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BTN raises to $3.06 and is all-in, Hero folds

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3. Is set-mining okay here?

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SB: $3.08 (77 bb)
BB: $2.27 (56.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $9.48 (237 bb)
CO: $6.60 (165 bb)
BTN: $14.27 (356.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8

Hero raises to $0.12, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.42, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.60, Hero folds

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4. Can I vbet this river?

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BTN: $9.06 (226.5 bb)
SB: $4.06 (101.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $8.04 (201 bb)
CO: $2.03 (50.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

CO calls $0.04, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.12) Q

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.12) 7

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.08, CO folds, SB calls $0.08

River: ($0.28) A

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

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5. Fold pf right?

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MP: $14.74 (368.5 bb)
CO: $4 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $7.05 (176.3 bb)
SB: $4.43 (110.7 bb)
BB: $4 (100 bb)
UTG: $9 (225 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8

2 folds, CO raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, SB folds, BB raises to $0.47, CO calls $0.33, Hero calls $0.33

Flop: ($1.43) K

(3 players)
BB bets $0.95, CO calls $0.95, Hero folds

Turn: ($3.33) T

(2 players)
BB checks, CO checks

River: ($3.33) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, CO checks

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09-16-2011 , 12:27 AM

scrimitzu

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Hand 1 - raise more OTF, you want to protect your hand and make it more expensive for drawers. I don't know how that guy called you with A8 but whatever, c/f river.
Hand 2 - Depends on stats, if you know villain is 3betting with JJ+/AK then fold pre you don't have the odds to setmine here.
Hand 3 - yes it is
Hand 4 - Yes you MUST. The villain has not shown any signs of aggression so you should bet bet bet this river because the ace is a brick for him most of the times.
Hand 5 - WTF ?! =) yeah it's ok to call with 8's but not to setmine, if you think you're ahead.

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09-16-2011 , 09:17 AM

cbboy

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1- more on the flop. bet turn. then its an easy shove on the river. he will have lots of kx hands and 2pair hands.
2- any reads on villain? why are you donking the turn? what is your reasoning for betting? bluff? value?
3- i don't usually set mine with hands like this. but you are deep so i think its a little better.
4- bet the river to get some value. he will have a lot of hands that will call a bet. don't be afraid of big hands just because they are possible if the villain hasn't done anything to make you think he has a monster.
5- meh.

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09-16-2011 , 09:19 AM

nickjehz

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cmon people. one hand per thread.

all answers are good.

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09-16-2011 , 10:34 AM

0equity

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,732

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Originally Posted by cbboy

1. I guess I got greedy, it felt like villain's were weak so I raised smaller to get the both of them to call. I realize now that that sort of messed with the bet-sizing for later streets.
2. forgot my reads on villain, but he was likely loose-passive. I was sort of lost on what to do, think my plan was to b/f turn and c/f river if he just called.

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09-16-2011 , 10:41 AM

cbboy

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ok. i understand that plan. but why were you doing that? what was your intention for betting? what were you hoping to accomplish? you should always have a reason for betting? bluff? value? protection?

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09-16-2011 , 10:48 AM

0equity

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,732

bluffing to get a cheap/free river, I guess. should I just have c/folded?

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09-16-2011 , 10:56 AM

cbboy

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so you are betting less than half pot to get him to fold JJ-KK?

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09-16-2011 , 11:10 AM

Busto again

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1 - Raise more on the flop, near pot size beat on the turn. Tough fold, I'd probably call then type "Jesus A8s on that flop?", actually I would probably fold...
2 - Villan dependent, your only getting 10-1 to set mine and I'd prefer nearer 15. I don't understand your donk on the turn, your read is he is passive yet he 3-bet and c-bet the flop. I'm inclined to C/F.
3 - I think set mining us fine given your so deep.
4 - defiantly value bet, make it something he could call though as his lack of aggression means he can't have much.
5 - Mmmm call isn't bad.

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09-16-2011 , 11:12 AM

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Busto again

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Originally Posted by 0equity

bluffing to get a cheap/free river, I guess. should I just have c/folded?

Your read was he is passive, yet he has shown a lot of aggression by 3-betting and c-betting that flop. That A certainly hits his range, so I'm not sure donning is a good line.

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09-16-2011 , 11:56 AM

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0equity

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Originally Posted by cbboy

so you are betting less than half pot to get him to fold JJ-KK?

I really don't know what I was thinking. I didn't want to fold turn I guess and felt a b/f line, c/f line would be better than check/call, check/fold. I realize now that the ace was a terrible card to do this on and should have just check/folded.

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