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03-19-2008 , 05:37 PM
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($644.00)
Hero ($391.10)
CO ($445.40)
BTN ($398.00)
SB ($776.20)
BB ($409.10)

Pre-flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 6 7
UTG calls $4, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, BTN raises to $46, SB calls $44, 1 fold, UTG calls $42, Hero calls $32

Flop: 5 3 8 ($188, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: J ($188, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: 3 ($188, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Final Pot: $188
SB shows: 6 7
UTG shows: T 9
Hero shows: 6 7
BTN shows: A Q

BTN wins $184.5 ( won +$138.5 )
SB lost -$46.00
UTG lost -$46.00
Hero lost -$46.00



Ace high won the hand,am I crazy for even thinking about 4betting this hand preflop?Also after the flop I was going to bet the turn bet a jack seemed a really horrible card to bet.

Whats everyone make of this?

Good play getting a free draw or should we be more more attacking
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03-19-2008 , 05:39 PM
I mean shoving can't be that -EV and is good for metagame, but I'm sure calling is more profitable.
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03-19-2008 , 05:40 PM
standard, trying to semibluff this board 4-ways is basically suicide
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03-19-2008 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
I mean shoving can't be that -EV and is good for metagame, but I'm sure calling is more profitable.
I know that the other 6-7s player would have gone all the way,on the other table they pushed an OESD when I CREAI against there flop cont,I snapped it up with a combo but came up short,that was another factor going through my mind for sure
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03-19-2008 , 05:44 PM
I meant preflop.
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03-19-2008 , 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by krmont22
I meant preflop.
I thought about that but then felt kinda sick after the thought

Hmm,I suppose that would look like AK-QQ+ so wouldn't be that bad(but thats after I saw the hands)

The 3bettor was 17/14/5 so we know he has a good ace or pair most of the time,I doubt it would be +EV against his 3bet range to shove.Sure he has not got a hand this time but he is fairly solid
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03-19-2008 , 07:41 PM
lol, even if you tried to semi-bluff the turn. T9 would have called and beat you.
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03-19-2008 , 09:09 PM
4bet pre is pretty cool against right players methinks
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03-19-2008 , 11:01 PM
lol @ SB's overcall pre. yours is obviously fine, and i take the same line postflop cause there's really no good spot for you to bet/represent something
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03-19-2008 , 11:04 PM
Quote:
Ace high won the hand,am I crazy for even thinking about 4betting this hand preflop?
depends on a your image. i would give you a hi 5 tho.
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03-19-2008 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by imozyslow
depends on a your image. i would give you a hi 5 tho.

Doubfull he knows my image,but if he did probally bad idea
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03-20-2008 , 05:56 AM
leading the flop is really the only thing you could have done different that isnt terrible...you muck this hand on the river, see everyones hole cards and thank the heavens you are playing at this table
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03-20-2008 , 07:16 AM
fold to the 3bet preflop?
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03-20-2008 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pog0
fold to the 3bet preflop?
WHat??????
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03-20-2008 , 10:45 AM
It's checked to you twice.Button doesn't have a hand, since he would never slowplay it 4 ways unless he has 88 (still would have probably bet) and i don't really see what hands UTG and SB can have with a J in them that cold call preflop (except JTs maybe, but i doubt it can call 2 streets).

Obviously, now that we see their hands, they could have it, but still, i bet like 125 on the turn and shove the river.If he calls me with like J T/Q, it's still not bad, since he'd never fold anything to me in the future and i just earned a crazy image.But i doubt TPMK hands can't stand the hit, even if someone has them.

Just make sure you play your big hands same way as well.
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