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01-07-2008 , 04:46 PM

recallme

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,650

Villain is unknown, i think he`s a good player.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $581.50
UTG+1: $2461
CO: $1213
Hero: $1187
SB: $967
BB: $2331

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A

UTG folds, [color:#cc0000]UTG+1 raises to $40[/color], CO folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 6

($95, 2 players)
[color:#cc0000]UTG+1 bets $75[/color], Hero calls.

Turn: 7

($245, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, [color:#cc0000]

I think board is too drawy to check behind, but how am i responding to a c/r?

I would have raised turn Ai vs another bet.

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01-07-2008 , 04:58 PM

illuminati

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,617

I kinda like, and can't decide, whether checking or betting is best. I do both fairly evenly here.

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01-07-2008 , 05:03 PM

Knock*u*down

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 53

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Originally Posted by recallme

UTG folds, [color:#cc0000]UTG+1 raises to $40[/color], CO folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 6

($95, 2 players)
[color:#cc0000]UTG+1 bets $75[/color], Hero calls.

Turn: 7

($245, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, [color:#cc0000]

I think board is too drawy to check behind, but how am i responding to a c/r?

I would have raised turn Ai vs another bet.

Please explain to me why you would raise allin after another bet? Since there a zillion draws out there you have very little fold equity imho, so the push must be for value right ?

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01-07-2008 , 05:08 PM

isapistola

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why cant you bet and fold to a raise?

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01-07-2008 , 05:20 PM

recallme

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,650

I never said i have to call.
I would raise Ai, because i can`t know which draw he has

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01-07-2008 , 05:26 PM

*FamilyGuyFan*

journeyman

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I would bet/fold $200

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01-07-2008 , 05:33 PM

Darkfolder

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,355

Well, its either a bet/call or a check. I lean towards a check against an unknown.

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01-07-2008 , 07:28 PM

recallme

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Some more thoughts on how to proceed?

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01-07-2008 , 07:57 PM

AcTiOnJaCsOn

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against a good player a bet fold is a bad play since hell be check raising draws all in etc, so id check if this is your read if hes very agressive it becomes a bet/call which is profitable vrs this type, or if hes real passive bet fold.

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01-07-2008 , 10:55 PM

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el-producto

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Check is good, I think most of his draws are 2 pair/trip draws anyway as he would most likely be betting his flush draws on this turn.

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01-08-2008 , 12:17 AM

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Drag007

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Originally Posted by recallme

I would have raised turn Ai vs another bet.

doesn't this imply that bet/call is best? (although i'm not necessarily advocating this)
unless you have some read that he always c/r's all of his strong hands and always leads good draws...which i'm guessing you don't

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01-08-2008 , 12:47 AM

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Chaostracize

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This is going to depend so much on history. I'd generally take a more aggressive route with a bet since you can be looked up pretty light here, but this is a spot where it can be 50/50 against an unknown, or an EASY check or EASY bet against someone you've played a lot against. I see no reason to be afraid of a light CR here, though, without history, so I'm going ahead and betting 3/4 or whatever is your standard.

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01-08-2008 , 06:26 AM

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ezdonkey

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I kinda like check.

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01-08-2008 , 07:04 AM

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BobboFitos

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RECALLME

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01-08-2008 , 08:46 AM

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shootaa

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i think if you bet you get peeled by a lot of combo hands he might not crai with, true that getting crai here by unk isn't cool. first time, id lean more towards checking

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01-08-2008 , 08:50 AM

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Rampage_Jackson

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Check looks good. Pushing the turn facing a bet against an unknown... just so bad, what am I missing?

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