set of QQ's on dangerous board in 3bpot OOP, facing turn raise 300+ BB deep
03-12-2011
, 03:20 PM
Same villain as in a recent post, description repeated below:
Villain was weird was playing 98% of his big blind over 1k+ hands vs. me but was running like God.
He was folding to about 30% of my 3-bets, my 3-bets weren't out of line.
At least 4 other times in the match he had called flop, called turn, folded river in 3-bet pots against me.
[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8183702
Hero (BB): $1,324.25 (331.1 bb)
SB: $2,665.80 (666.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q
Q
SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $40, SB calls $32
Flop: ($80) Q
J A (2 players)
Hero bets $60, SB calls $60
Turn: ($200) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $120, SB raises to $280, Hero ??
I suspected he had something because the sizing looks like he wanted to sucker me in for just 160 more but who knows.
Obviously I'm not folding, but in order of preference, what's best here?
a) Shove - if so, why?
b) Call, and check-call non pairing, non heart rivers
c) Call, and bet-fold non pairing, non heart rivers
d) Call, and bet-call non pairing, non heart rivers
Obviously if we call and hit the boat or heart its easy to play.
Sorry for poor reads but despite playing literally every hand he was mixing it up pretty well postflop and I felt was pretty much guessing every time. One time he even floated a flop check-raise with Ten high no draw, then potted the turn big when I checked to him, then showed it, this after doing the same line with what I was sure were monsters a couple times before that (which he didn't show and he had showed me lots of bluffs).
Very frustrating session, when I called with two pair+ type hands on connected boards he had the nuts every time, I folded a lot and it seemed every 1 hand in 3 he would show me a bluff. So called when he had it and folded when he didn't and he was mixing up his bet sizes well too.
Another one:
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (2 handed) - Full Tilt Poker Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com
Hero (BB) ($2137)
SB ($1805.55)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K
, K
SB bets $12, Hero raises to $52, SB calls $40
Flop: ($104) 9, 9, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $104, Hero calls $104
Turn: ($312) 8
(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $312, Hero calls $312
River: ($936) 4 (2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero ??
When he pots the turn for $312 I wanted to fold already, he did pot as a bluff before, and I did even see him overbet 285 into 240 as a bluff.
I actually bet the river about $500 and he called as I had seen him hero call me at least one other time with King high in a 3-bet pot, so thought it would work both for value and as a blocker (rather than pay the price of an all in) if he has the 9 or a flush.
Was this fine from me?
Does anyone check-fold the river?
Villain was weird was playing 98% of his big blind over 1k+ hands vs. me but was running like God.
He was folding to about 30% of my 3-bets, my 3-bets weren't out of line.
At least 4 other times in the match he had called flop, called turn, folded river in 3-bet pots against me.
[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8183702
Hero (BB): $1,324.25 (331.1 bb)
SB: $2,665.80 (666.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q
QSB raises to $8, Hero raises to $40, SB calls $32
Flop: ($80) Q
J A (2 players)Hero bets $60, SB calls $60
Turn: ($200) 5
(2 players)Hero bets $120, SB raises to $280, Hero ??
I suspected he had something because the sizing looks like he wanted to sucker me in for just 160 more but who knows.
Obviously I'm not folding, but in order of preference, what's best here?
a) Shove - if so, why?
b) Call, and check-call non pairing, non heart rivers
c) Call, and bet-fold non pairing, non heart rivers
d) Call, and bet-call non pairing, non heart rivers
Obviously if we call and hit the boat or heart its easy to play.
Sorry for poor reads but despite playing literally every hand he was mixing it up pretty well postflop and I felt was pretty much guessing every time. One time he even floated a flop check-raise with Ten high no draw, then potted the turn big when I checked to him, then showed it, this after doing the same line with what I was sure were monsters a couple times before that (which he didn't show and he had showed me lots of bluffs).
Very frustrating session, when I called with two pair+ type hands on connected boards he had the nuts every time, I folded a lot and it seemed every 1 hand in 3 he would show me a bluff. So called when he had it and folded when he didn't and he was mixing up his bet sizes well too.
Another one:
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (2 handed) - Full Tilt Poker Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com
Hero (BB) ($2137)
SB ($1805.55)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K
, KSB bets $12, Hero raises to $52, SB calls $40
Flop: ($104) 9
, 9, 6 (2 players)Hero checks, SB bets $104, Hero calls $104
Turn: ($312) 8
(2 players)Hero checks, SB bets $312, Hero calls $312
River: ($936) 4
(2 players)[color=#CC3333]Hero ??
When he pots the turn for $312 I wanted to fold already, he did pot as a bluff before, and I did even see him overbet 285 into 240 as a bluff.
I actually bet the river about $500 and he called as I had seen him hero call me at least one other time with King high in a 3-bet pot, so thought it would work both for value and as a blocker (rather than pay the price of an all in) if he has the 9 or a flush.
Was this fine from me?
Does anyone check-fold the river?
Last edited by PokerChamp; 03-12-2011 at 03:26 PM.
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