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01-15-2010 , 04:24 PM
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wtf is going on in here? Villain has jj-aa here A LOT. shove for value.
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01-15-2010 , 04:26 PM
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wtf is going on in here? Villain has jj-aa here A LOT. shove for value.
+1 He does even peel with 8x or whatever on the flop
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01-15-2010 , 04:31 PM
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no, wtf at expecting villian to call our shove for 200bb's with AA-JJ
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01-15-2010 , 04:38 PM
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no, wtf at expecting villian to call our shove for 200bb's with AA-JJ
what's ur line then?

And do you not agree that we are ahead here most of the time?
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01-15-2010 , 04:54 PM
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+1

shipping in 300bb's with btm set seems so gross since we won't get called by worse imo. I mean, seriously do we really except villian to call with AA,KK,QQ here? If villian calls our shove we have 10 outs at best imo.
How often does set over set happen? We are best here most of the time.
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01-15-2010 , 04:55 PM
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How often does set over set happen? We are best here most of the time.
1%
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01-15-2010 , 04:56 PM
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wtf is going on in here? Villain has jj-aa here A LOT. shove for value.
Villain flatted a 3-bet pre, and he should normally cold 4-bet QQ+ pre. If he's good, he shouldn't stack off with JJ-QQ (assuming we have the image of a good tag), but once we raise flop and have one psb left, I don't think we can get away from it. Basically what Teddie said, but people didn't seem to read it.
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01-15-2010 , 05:00 PM
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oh jesus, i misread this hand. i thought we were HU with badbluffer.

I thought I was losing it there for a sec

edit: lol, ignore my previous 2 posts
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01-15-2010 , 05:29 PM
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Villain isn't the OR, so he never has K's+ here. While I can see him flatting J's and Q's here pre flop like this I think he'd fold them on the flop 100% of the time unless he's a fish. His range for stacking off has us pretty ****'d tbh. I probably can't ever fold here but I'm feeling pretty sick about getting it in.
this was what i felt. i ended up b/c is shove on the turn and he had 99.
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