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Second nuts straight facing river 4 bet Second nuts straight facing river 4 bet

09-10-2014 , 02:15 PM
Oponent is very tight and passive. I was stealling almost his every blind with just a min raise. So this time he calls me and at least 3 times, when he called my min raise preflop, he had a pocket pair or a premium hand. I checked the flop because he would call me down with ace high ir any pocket pair. I called the turn because of really good pot odds (5:1) and then look what happened on the river. What would You guys do in the same spot on the river? And maybe what different would You do on the flop? Again, oponent is very passive and loves to call when he sees the cards, but preflop he is very tight


BB: 1,980 (39.6 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,020 (20.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 4
Hero raises to 100, BB calls 50

Flop: (200) 9 5 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (200) 8 (2 players)
BB bets 50, Hero calls 50

River: (300) 6 (2 players)
BB bets 200, Hero raises to 450, BB raises to 800, Hero raises to 870 and is all-in, BB calls 70.


He showed T7 offsuit and won
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09-10-2014 , 03:09 PM
You started the hand 20 big blinds deep. Of course you never fold the second nuts at any point.
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09-10-2014 , 03:35 PM
Flop play is acceptable if your reads are right -- that villain's flatting range is no wider than like "22-AA, AJ-AK, (KQ, QJ):xx". I'm inclined to express some skepticism towards that, given the "reads" you've posted elsewhere. Are you using a HUD? But you should still third-pot it unless you'll get raised a lot; this isn't a hand that needs much FE for c-bet to > check, because c-betting buys you a free turn + river.

Turn call is probably losing you a third of a bb or so, if not more. You need like an extra +pot EV on blank sixes and an extra +1/2 pot EV on a dirty six to call profitably, which is kind of a lot. Hand sucks.

River play is perfect. I'd time down and bet 401 and say "7x not found, LOL" and jam over the shove and slink away in shame.
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09-11-2014 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Amzinas
He showed T7 offsuit and won
Looks like your read of his perceived range was off just a little bit then huh ?
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09-11-2014 , 01:41 PM
Yes, it was the least expected hand of his. Anyway, thank You for having time to give Your opinions!
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09-11-2014 , 02:35 PM
meh - you could steal but blinds are getting bigger and you gotta be careful which hands you open up with.

Even if the guy is passive you gotta give him a walk once in a while. I'd be opening around 70% from the SB but I think we could let this one go. This is near the bottom 20% of our starting hands and really not a reason to get involved. You can't really open + cbet with out committing 25% of your stack. If you want to play this hand you could limp in but even that is optimistic.

as played you can't really fold river
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09-11-2014 , 02:40 PM
pre is fine, cbet flop, can prolly fold turn, riv is fine
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